Regarding the Pronunciation Wars plaguing the Open Source Community, I would have to agree with Bruce regarding Suse. I just read in my Linux exam book that it was pronounced 'Suzah'. I have also heard the Gnu is 'Guh-Nu', but there is also no way I'm walking around say Guh-Nome. That'll get you a good beating! When pronounced 'Nome' it actually sounds like a cool program everyone would want to use. The 'Guh-Nome' makes it sound like an ancient monochrome Atari game or something! Nick ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org Sent: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 09:59:41 -0800 To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: tclug-list Digest, Vol 3, Issue 14 Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to tclug-list at mn-linux.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://shadowknight.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org You can reach the person managing the list at tclug-list-owner at mn-linux.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of tclug-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: stupid pronunciation questions (Dan Rue) 2. RE: stupid pronunciation questions (Bruce Broecker) 3. RE: stupid pronunciation questions (Mike Miller) 4. Re: stupid pronunciation questions (Mike Miller) 5. RE: stupid pronunciation questions (Adam Maloney) 6. RE: stupid pronunciation questions (Jima) --------------------------------------------------------------------- - Message: 1 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 10:49:39 -0600 From: Dan Rue <drue at therub.org> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] stupid pronunciation questions To: Chris Smith <christophermsmith at gmail.com> Cc: TCLUG List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> Message-ID: <20050309164939.GD59780 at therub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 10:30:28AM -0600, Chris Smith wrote: > the Guh-Nome part i was pretty sure about, though that is helpful. > > I remember reading about it in some Linux mag. Stallman basically said > anything starting with gnu should be GUH-NU-whatever. > hard to do though, espcially around casual linux users... they look at > you funny, and you feel compelled to explain, and then you end up > looking like a bit of jerk.. (at least i seem to...) > > Oh, and Suse,,, that one is like Dr. Suess, not Suzy.... since we are > expanding the list. I personally think that in the spirit of open source and there's-more-than-one-way-to-do-it, pronunciation should be an open sport. Nobody cares what Stallman says, anyway (ain't no way i'm saying Guh-Nome). dan ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 10:53:08 -0600 From: "Bruce Broecker" <Bruce.Broecker at toro.com> Subject: RE: [tclug-list] stupid pronunciation questions To: "TCLUG List" <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> Message-ID: <C3D9EE274D1F3A4EB9AA0488B6C99FC448E694 at lynms601.global.ad.to ro.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > -----Original Message----- > > > Oh, and Suse,,, that one is like Dr. Suess, not Suzy.... since we are > expanding the list. Really? I have always used conventional german pronunciation, which means the e on the end would be an uh sound. So, it would be SueZuh. Bruce ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:19:21 -0600 (CST) From: Mike Miller <mbmiller at taxa.epi.umn.edu> Subject: RE: [tclug-list] stupid pronunciation questions To: Bruce Broecker <Bruce.Broecker at toro.com> Cc: TCLUG List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.60.0503091117450.9296 at taxa.epi.umn.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, Bruce Broecker wrote: >> Oh, and Suse,,, that one is like Dr. Suess, not Suzy.... since we are >> expanding the list. > > Really? I have always used conventional german pronunciation, which > means the e on the end would be an uh sound. So, it would be SueZuh. You are correct: http://www.google.com/search?q=suse+pronounced Mike ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:22:18 -0600 (CST) From: Mike Miller <mbmiller at taxa.epi.umn.edu> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] stupid pronunciation questions To: Dan Rue <drue at therub.org> Cc: TCLUG List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.60.0503091119470.9296 at taxa.epi.umn.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, Dan Rue wrote: > I personally think that in the spirit of open source and > there's-more-than-one-way-to-do-it, pronunciation should be an open > sport. Nobody cares what Stallman says, anyway (ain't no way i'm saying > Guh-Nome). Go for it. I am more conventional about pronunciation because I think consistency facilitates communication. I actually do care what Stallman says about the pronunciations of words he makes up like "POSIX". When a student asks me how a word is pronounced, I like to give him/her an answer instead of saying "however you like." Mike ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:14:13 -0600 (CST) From: Adam Maloney <adam at whee.org> Subject: RE: [tclug-list] stupid pronunciation questions To: TCLUG List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.60.0503091059450.21476 at titan> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, Bruce Broecker wrote: >> >> Oh, and Suse,,, that one is like Dr. Suess, not Suzy.... since we are >> expanding the list. > > Really? I have always used conventional german pronunciation, which > means the e on the end would be an uh sound. So, it would be SueZuh. suh-lack-ware. Easy peasy. Let's do a usability test: Non-obvious Users get mad if Pronounciation you say it wrong Rhymes with ---------------------------------------------------------------- SuSe [X] [X] Loos-ah Gentoo [X] [X] Poo, Sniff-glue Ubuntu [X] [X] Count Duku Debian [X] [X]* Schmebian Redhat [ ] N/A Dead Rat Slackware [ ] N/A Smack! Ware *Tests have shown that Deeeeebian users get really mad, to the point of threatening physical violence. At installfests this typically results in a big slap-and-bite-fest. Obviously Redhat and Slackware are clear winners in the pronounciation area. But Redhat ends up losing because it rhymes with expired rodents. So Slackware wins again! Is there nothing this great distro can't do? ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:38:28 -0600 (CST) From: Jima <jima at beer.tclug.org> Subject: RE: [tclug-list] stupid pronunciation questions To: Adam Maloney <adam at whee.org> Cc: TCLUG List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0503091138020.25128-100000 at beer.tclug.org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, Adam Maloney wrote: > Obviously Redhat and Slackware are clear winners in the pronounciation > area. But Redhat ends up losing because it rhymes with expired rodents. > So Slackware wins again! Is there nothing this great distro can't do? Save you from the flamewar you've just started? ;) Jima ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list End of tclug-list Digest, Vol 3, Issue 14 ***************************************** ---- End Original Message ---- “Take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim.” ~ Elie Wiesel View my blog & artwork! *********************** http://artandprose.blogspot.com/ http://www.Care2.com Free e-mail. 100MB storage. Helps charities. Make a Difference: Stop Canada's cruel and senseless baby seal hunt! http://www.care2.com/go/z/saveseals