Yet you have nothing positive to say about it. Why do you bother? Sorry Yes I think Linux " ROCKS " Someone new may want to look at Libranet2.8 Its a great Distro...Apt-Get really helps stop that Dep.hell thing.. Now with that said lets take one thing at a time here, Database I will explain the way I built mine First..Which is using a GUI from filemakerPro. all I had to do was make my page layouts and then match everything up and send it to were ever I wanted by linking them very easy When I look at mysql there is alot of command line stuff or should I say scripting..And maybe I just dont no what a real database is...Can anyone help with this? or point me in the way I should be going? __________________________________________________________________ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list