I don't think PGP/GPG is going to catch on with Grandma. (or Joe 6-pack for that matter.) As far as I know, PGP Freeware is no longer being developed. GPG has a fairly steep learning curve, unless the GUI utilities for windows (and other OSes) get an overhaul by developers who are developing for Grandma not themselves, there really isn't a good option for PGP/GnuPG for the non-advanced user. The best option for GnuPG stuff on Windows (and other platforms) right now is Thunderbird + enigmail (http://enigmail.mozdev.org/). I've got it working on Windows, Mac, and Linux and I'm quite happy with it. On Windows, I went with Windows Privacy Tools (http://winpt.sourceforge.net/en/) instead of the GnuPG binaries form gnupg.org. Setup was easier, and you have a GUI frontend for Windows. I used this setup to replace PGP Freeware when I upgraded my girlfriends computer to Windows XP (PGP Freeware doesn't support WinXP...no big loss though!) For my girlfriend who was already familiar with PGP, the transition to the new tools wasn't hard at all. But for a Grandma? Not likely...my Grandma hasn't figured out the entering a subject thing yet. I had to whitelist her or every message got marked as spam due to no subject...*sigh*. What Grandma wants is a system that is transparent to her. In that respect, we're looking for something on the server side. The systems along the line of publishing the legitimate mail servers for a domain/ip block as an extension to DNS or something of that nature would be a good first step. Spammers will still be out there, but at least you can cut down on the zombie mail servers somewhat as your mailserver can look and see "Hey, this isn't an authorized mail server for this IP block....denied!" I suppose that falls into the draconion smtp hack category...but it is along the lines of what Grandma wants. I haven't been following SPF, Server Keys, etc...but I think this is what they are trying for... The important part is that all ISPs, businesses, etc need to agree on this, and agree to move away from the old systems. You'll find ISPs the most receptive I think, but businesses, espically small ones with little or no IT staff, will resist unless it's made law. Businesses have grown to depend on their e-mail, and adding something that might cause them not to get e-mail from an improtant client (who is behind the technology curve perhaps) is not good business. The problem with making it law is that somebody has to enforce it. That pretty much falls on the back of ISPs at some point, so in the US you suddenly have ISPs doing the job of the executive branch...so in the end you are pretty much back where we started... What a mess we've made. :D -- Andrew S. Zbikowski | http://andy.zibnet.us A password is like your underwear; Change it frequently, don't share it with others, and don't ask to borrow someone else's. _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota Help beta test TCLUG's potential new home: http://plone.mn-linux.org Got pictures for TCLUG? Beta test http://plone.mn-linux.org/gallery tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list