>On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 04:36:49AM -0600, Callum Lerwick wrote: >> Hey Bob, can I get your blessing to put tclug-list on gmane.org? >> We could even get the archive imported: http://www.gmane.org/import.php >> Looks like we should be gmane.user-groups.linux.tclug >> Now what would be neat is if we could just set up g.u.l.tclug.debian, >> g.u.l.tclug.fedora, etc. But with gmane we'd have to set up separate >> mailing lists to back them. If we were running on a real NNTP server... Chad Walstrom wrote: >But the reason we don't want to create new mailing list for SIGs is so >we don't break the group up. The GMANE idea sounds cool, but I'm not >sure we need to have a g.u.l.tclug.{SIG} set at all. We have four lists >already "list", "announce", "jobs", and "devel". That leaves >g.u.l.tclug, g.u.l.tclug.jobs, g.u.l.tclug.devel, g.u.l.tclug.announce Rather than argue the pros and cons of mailing lists versus newsgroups, we could consider using both. GNU mailman has a good bi-directional gateway to a specific newsgroup and newsgroup server. For TCLUG use, a single news server requiring each user to have or open a free account might be advisable. Ideally, the mailing list accounts and news server accounts would be the same, but for now duplicate accounts may be needed. (GNU mailman has or will have an official release with a single account per user of all its mailing lists rather than a single account per user and per mailing list as has been the case.) This would allow users the choice of using a news client or an e-mail client for participating in TCLUG "mailing lists". (This is in addition to some news clients' and some e-mail clients' ability to present a mailing list with threads as though it was a newsgroup.) One doesn't have to stop here. One could even provide a web based forum(s) with an nntp or smtp gateway to a newsgroup or mailing list. The TCLUG mailing lists could then be easily accessed via e-mail, news and web clients using the protocols appropriate to each of these three venues of TCLUG "mailing list" content. However, since this would likely (easily) be done using one mailing list server, one news server and one web server, there is no multiple server advantage such as USENET with multiple news servers sharing newsgroup content. Thus, all this does is provide three different interfaces to the same content. Since e-mail is still the most widely used of these three interfaces and TCLUG fully supports it, there is no pressing need to support the other two. Whether we stick with mailing lists only or not, we need to consider the advisability of using GNU mailman topic filters and how that could be extended to the possible use of news and web clients in the future. It would be nice to set the filter in one place and have it work for e-mail clients, news (using nntp) clients and web (using http) clients. Sincerely, Ken Fuchs <kfuchs at winternet.com> _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list