> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Rue [mailto:drue at therub.org]
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 11:18 AM
> To: TCLUG Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Grubb boot menu options
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 09:47:28AM -0600, Tom Penney wrote:
> > I haven't been following this thread closely so forgive me 
> if this has
> > been covered. I have seen computers (old inexpensive 
> compaq's I think)
> > with the bios info stored on a mini drive partition. I've 
> trashed this
> > "bios Partion" in the past and had to download  and  make bootable
> > floppies to recreate it. The hard drive bios has to go down 
> as one of
> > the stupidest ideas ever. 
> > 
> > I couldn't google up anything quickly to support my story so you may
> > think I'm crazy. I wouldn't  believe it either. but several 
> years ago I
> > did fix a computer that wouldn't boot without a partition 
> on the primary
> > master drive for bios info.
> I concur!  I use an old P200 compac for my firewall.  It came 
> with a 2GB
> hard drive, with a small partition that it used for bios.  If 
> you booted
> to bios, it brought up this circa windows 95 visual basic 
> interface for
> _viewing_ your bios information (I was not able to actually change
> anything).  I was able to nuke the partition and still have a
> functioning computer - I just can't access any bios information - but
> since I couldn't change anything with the interface anyway I 
> don't care.  
> 
> Worth noting is that I bought this computer at computer renassiance a
> few years ago for $70 I think.  I booted it up when I got it, and it
> went into win98.  Looking around, they had deleted the "my documents"
> folder, but not emptied it from recycling bin.  Apparently, 
> the computer
> was used by the corporate headquarters for one of the big 
> salon chains.
> I found some very interesting customer/personal information on there.
> There were a few letters to customers saying to the effect: 
> "We're sorry
> that you had a bad experience at XXX salon.  Your credit card number
> xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx expiration date xx/xx/xx has been refunded $13.95"
> 
> I was shocked that companies are so stupid to leave stuff like that on
> there.  Can you say lawsuit?
> 
> I considered contacting the people who's information had been
> compromised, and I considered contacting the salon company.  
> But in the
> end, knowing people who's innocent security alerts had resulted in
> criminal penalties, I just formatted the drive...
> 
> Dan


One more reason we were all better off with Green screen computing with dumb
terminals.  You can't save sensitive customer data on your dumb terminal.

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