Arkajyoti Misra wrote:

>Thanks everybody for your thoughts and comments. Thanks for suggesting
>knoppix. I haven't heard about knoppix before and after reading about
>it from internet I found the idea interesting and want to try it in
>future. Also Scott's comment encourages me to do a FC1->FC3 upgrade.
>
>Adam, thanks for your way of explaining things. It is good that you
>suggested me to compile my own kernel. Actually I was thinking about
>that myself but wasn't very confident. I tried to recompile my
>existing 2.4.x kernel to have APM support. There was no error message
>during the process but when I tried to boot with the custom kernel the
>system hanged.
>
>There are so many postings in fedora forum with FC1->FC3 upgrade
>problems and problems with FC3 in general that I want to install FC3
>in a new partition without touching my running FC1. After that I can
>safely play around with the 2.6.x kernel. Can I use the same swap
>partition for both FC1 and FC3? I am running Grub. Can I modify the
>grub.conf after the installation to include FC3 as a chainload option,
>or do I need to update the boot loader during installation? Anything
>else I need to know for the venture?
>
>Arko.
>  
>

Knoppix is a great CD distro to have for troubleshooting purposes and to 
use as a boot disk when things don't go well, like your kernel doesn't 
boot and you didn't edit grub ;)

Yes you can use the same swap space, in your case it would be /dev/hda5 
it looks like.  But you'll just have to specify that in the FC3 install.

/dev/hda5               swap                    swap    defaults        0 0

I remember when I first compiled my own kernel and the reservations I had about it.  Thing is, it was a lot easier to learn when a lot wasn't at stake, than when things were on the computer I had fears of losing through my negligence.  Better now than later.

Compiling your own kernel is actually way easy.  You just need to know two things really, what I said in the last post (note those were directions for 2.6 kernel, NOT 2.4), and about your boot manager, in your case grub.

I wrote something for someone who wiped out their grub by mistake in comp.os.linux.setup, you can find it at:  http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?&q=grub+linux+author%3A%22adam+shrode

Note that in your case, in reference to the part where it says
#mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/tmp
#vi /mnt/tmp/boot/*grub*/*grub*.conf
you don't need to mount /dev/hda1 because boot doesn't look like it is on a separate partition.  you should just be able to go 'vi /boot/grub/grub.conf' if you want to edit directly like that.  So just substitute /mnt/tmp with /boot wherever.

Grub can be confusing, but it is pretty damn simple when stripped from its complexity.  You can have 1, 2, 8, ... whatever compiled kernels.  Grub just lets you select that kernel so have at it.  You can keep your default kernel so your machine pretty much has to boot.  Of course problems can arise if you try to install new software, but that's a separate problem you can address later by reading or asking.

I upgraded FC1 to FC2 and stayed on the 2.4 kernel because I couldn't get the wireless acx100 drivers to work with 2.6.  I recently tried to upgrade to FC2 to FC3 using yum, but failed due to udev.  If you move to FC3, you should note that udev is distinct with how it creates /dev files like /dev/sda1 and every other /dev file.  It creates it dynamically which is different than with how it is with FC1&2 where all the /dev files are there as specified from boot by the kernel options you had specified.  Just stating as such because you'll probably notice that difference when working with USB.

I haven't done a fresh install of FC (any version) so I'm not sure how that works exactly in the boot process.  I would just not install grub or lilo if that is possible and then edit it later when install is complete.  Or install it, but then edit it back the other way for FC1 when install is complete.

Other than that, you'll want the website http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/ which goes through some explanation of what udev is and how to stay up to date using yum and stuff.

And if you haven't already, change /etc/yum.conf to work with http://rpm.livna.org/.  That will allow you to install some Good Stuff like mplayer, xine, frozen-bubble, or xmms-mp3.

Adam


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