On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 20:33:10 -0500, David Phillips <electrum at gmail.com> wrote: > Java isn't free. I can't install it on Debian or FreeBSD without > jumping through hoops. There are plenty of other languages freely > available for me to use, so why should I care about Java? Java is a language, and is free. A JDK from Sun requires hoops. (iirc, a web form) The Blackdown JDK does not, though it isn't GPL'd. </nitpick> > And don't get me started on actually using an application written in > Java. rpgoldman summed it up nicely. No comment :) I've had some great experiences, and I've had some nasty ones. Same as anything else. _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota Help beta test TCLUG's potential new home: http://plone.mn-linux.org Got pictures for TCLUG? Beta test http://plone.mn-linux.org/gallery tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list