Apparently Comcast is sending letters to users saying that they use too much bandwidth, but they won't tell them what the limit is. I have Comcast and I haven't gotten a letter yet. I have had major problems with it though, the only way I could get them to fix their network is pin it down for them and post to NANOG to get someone to look at it. Their tech support is a bunch of morons that just tell you to reboot your machine. I had way less problems with DSL. I've heard only good things about TWT though. > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam Maloney [mailto:adamm at sihope.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 4:05 PM > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] cable v. dsl v. satellite > > > I suspect we'll hear lots of opinions on this one - but I'll > throw in my > $.02. I'll say up front that I work for an ISP that provides > Qwest DSL, > so my opinion may be somewhat slanted. > > First, AFAIK dish is only 1-way high-speed. And the latency sucks. I > have no other experience with them - only that they've been hated by > gamers because of the latency, and people that do > interactive-type stuff > like ssh/telnet a lot. Web and downloads are probably fine, > and for your > average user most of your traffic is incoming anyways, so depending on > your usage this might not suck. > > DSL has been great for me. These "CraptionTec's" (ActionTec) > that Qwest > is distributing now suck in a few new ways that the cisco's > didn't, but > they're tolerable. I might try and find a 678 if I were getting new > service. Then again, Qwest is trying to phase them out. On > the b/w side, > I get exactly the speed I would expect out of a 640k/272k PPPoATM > connection back to Sihope. That is to say, I've never had a capacity > problem across Qwest's ATM network, and I always get full speed > downloading from Sihope and the upstreams we peer with. > > You lose 12.5% (?) bandwidth for ATM overhead, and some for PPP. I > usually see above 500kbit/s throughput pulling data from > anywhere on the > net that can push that much. My speeds only suffer when I'm hitting a > site that is busy, or doesn't have enough outbound capacity > to saturate my > link. > > I won't say which ISP to use with Qwest DSL - there are > plenty around, and > a few on this list. I will say to stay away from Qwest.net > (now MSN), as > it's been nothing but horror stories from the refugees we've > had defecting > to us after being with MSN. > > As far as cable goes, I've never had it. Some of my friends > say it's the > greatest thing since sliced bread, 10MBit throughput all the > time, never > goes down, etc. Someone I know in Eden Prairie has TWT cable > and says it > sucks - throughput is okay some of the time, but it's down a > lot, support > sucks, etc. I often wonder if "geek pride" prevents the > friends in group > #1 from telling the truth about their service, or if it's > actually that > much better in different areas. > > I also know someone that was running a VPN over some high port, and > ATT started filtering it after a few weeks of constant traffic to it. > > Unless you get "business" cable, there's no way to get a static IP. > > Original MediaOne users have had to change e-mail addy's 3 times in 4 > years (check my numbers here). MediaOne.com -> ATTbi.com -> > Comcast. We > have taken over 5 or 6 ISP's over the years, and they all are > still using > their original addresses. I can't even fathom what > bone-headed decision > lead to this, but it must have sucked for those poor punters > that had to > go through it. > > If you have line of site to our building (France & 494, so > you're close) > you might be able to get wireless to us. 11MBit of pure love. > > > > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, nota12b wrote: > > > In my area (Minnetonka/Hopkins) I know Time Warner is > available (what I have > > now), I THINK dsl is/may be, and Earthlink DSL shows as > available from the > > Dish Network site (and only working with M$ Win products - > blick!)... > > Anybody have knowledge of which is better and why - or just > as importantly > > which is WORSE and why? Any/all info appreciated. > > > > $$ is a factor here and even dial-up may be forced into > being an option, > > so... > > IF cable > > THEN maybe not even have a landline phone hooked up > > IF DSL > > THEN most likely dish instead of cable > > IF DSL thru DISH > > THEN ... neither? > > > > Wil > > > > "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready > in the night to > > visit violence on those who would do us harm." - George Orwell > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > Adam Maloney > Systems Administrator > Sihope Communications > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list