Well I think I found the problem but I'm not sure what to do. The track ball is configured in the BIOS of the computer, it has 2 settings, internal or serial. I believe the internal is a PS2 mouse connection. I set the BIOS to be serial The PS2 mouse gets found by "gpm" I set the BIOS to be internal the PS2 mouse gets found by "gpm" I have no clue what file I need to go after to edit so the PS2 mouse is not found or ignored. I even removed "gpm" did a shutdown -h now. Powered off and got the same results with 4 tests. Anyone have ideas. Sam. _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list