Sam MacDonald == Sam Sam> I disagree about the "long fruitless thread" thing. Ben Lutgens == Ben Ben> OFF-TOPIC OFF-TOPIC. Ben> Take this B.S. to some politics oriented mlist. Sam, I think it has been expressed by a number of people that this thread is not welcome on the list. Bring up this discussion at a Beer meeting, or strike up a conversation on any of the various newsgroups dedicated to politics: soc.politics misc.activism Search on google for '"information technology" labor or trade and union'. I'm sure you'll find someone who wants to talk to you. Regardless, this thread is hitting my killfile shortly. Cheers! -- Chad Walstrom <chewie at wookimus.net> http://www.wookimus.net/ assert(expired(knowledge)); /* core dump */ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 240 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20030906/a0298ae0/attachment.pgp