On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 07:57:22AM -0500, Sam MacDonald wrote: > I would feel better if people would do what they should, not what they > want to do. Who decides "what they should". There was One, and He gave up. "Free will". > Instead of helping people they try to hurt people. These > are not people displaying any moral or ethical grounds for what they do. > > A criminal is a criminal, they are scum and should be dealt with as > such. I've worked through to many virus and DOS attacks to consider > the people that do this kind of thing as any less criminal. > > If they want to tell me a security hole exists they can call me. When > they attack a system it is a criminal act, end of story. Find them, toss > them in jail, Right! > and let buba have their ass. Wrong! Bubba should do only what he should do, not what he wants! > The problem IS the rootkit, it enables a crime to be committed. Rootkit > has NO legitimate reason to exist, it exists to cause damage to a I bet $10 that a chicken has the same opinion about your knife. > computer system. Drug dealers do the same thing they enable criminal > behavior for profit. And NO it's not advertised as a way to check the > security of your own system. Indeed... knives were never advertised ad "throat resistence measurement tool". Duble standard? Don't do onto others... Thought is no a crime, posession of a knife is not a crime, posession of a rootkit is not a crime. Cutting somebody is a crime, rooting a box is a crime. florin > The intent is to cause other people > problems, because poor Johnny didn't get to watch TV that one Saturday > when he was 10. Let Johnny have lots of time in prison for his actions. > > Sam. > > > Matthew S. Hallacy wrote: > > > > > > >Would you feel safer if only the criminals knew where to get bolt cutters > >and guns? The problem is not the rootkit, it's the hole they used to get > >into the system to begin with. You should always perform a clean install > >after an intrusion, a rootkit just gives you a harder boot in the rear. > > > > > > > >>Sam > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -- Don't question authority: they don't know either! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20031022/31007550/attachment.pgp