After posting this, I wandered over to the tclug website, classified section and coincidentally ran across this add right away. :) http://www.mn-linux.org/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?catagory=computerwanted -mj And hence AUTHOR wrote: Michael Jentges > > And hence AUTHOR wrote: Justin Haaheim >> If I'm not mistaken, the idea of giving out the cd's is to attract >> people to linux. > > That's how I read it. LINUX. Not RH9, specifically. Here I have a slack > 4, rh5.2, slack 7.0, 7.1, 8.1, RH 6.2, 7.2 (2) ... LINUX. (I never do > .0 RH.) When time permits I was pondering replacing rh5.2 with 7.3, or > if they have a .1 out by then, sure. No, there's no debian. Without > getting deep let's just say I think I have too much 'management' in my > life already. :) > >>I'm not sure that having a weeding agent helps our >> cause. > > Sir, merely a figure of speech, intended to point out that I rather > doubt anyone would NOT take a free CD if it weren't RH9. They might even > be pleased to know there was more than one variety. > >>Sure, a redhat system and a slack system and a gentoo system are >> all fundamentally similar -- they're all linux. But installing >> gentoo >> took me days and installing redhat took me 45 minutes. > > Prior to your Gentoo adventure, what distribution did you usually run? > >>If the people >> we're giving these cd's to are well-versed and interested in spending >> the time on a debian or gentoo install, then fine, but then I don't >> think those kind of people would immediately associate linux with >> redhat. > > If not, all they see/try/know of is Redhat then? What if they have > issues with some of the default installation configuration and are > unable to 'easily and transparently' resolve it? I.E. The 'default > firewall' or auto partitioning, etc. > >>Keep in mind, there's a difference between associating linux >> with redhat and associating easy-and-transparent-linux with redhat. > > Well I can promise you that I will NEVER associate 'easy and > transparent' with redhat. Again, that's just me. Ford/Chevy Coke/Pepsi, > whatever. I just like to be aware of the fact that both exist and while > one goes smooth for you it doesn't for me but the other has a cool can, > so I'll try that one once. > > Been to HP/Compaq website lately? WinXP, Win2kPRO, and MANDRAKE Linux > are the OS choices on the new Evo BUSINESS desktop PC's there. At least > the 310, 510 series. I personally am a slackh0 but I think that's pretty > d**n cool > an outfit of those proportions is doing this. > > I'm rather strapped for $$, and I don't know where all the media is > coming from but I DO have a fairly new (up to) 48x burner and work out > of my house and would be happy to start a mass production of a variety > of installation ISO's if I had the media. Would it help if I picked up a > spool of 50 (or whatever) and burned them? I can certainly do that. In > fact I just happen to have a $10 orafice max coupon here somewhere iirc. > :) > > -mj > > P.S. If this is in any way a Redhat Sponsored event, please disregard > the > message above in it's entirety. > > >> >> justin >> >> >>>I do see a trend where "linux" to many new/curious folks means REDHAT, >>> and in the past have found that 'linux support' meant that there was >>> an RPM available, nothing more. That just ain't right. There should >>> be fair and equal "billing" for all. If someone passes because all >>> you have left are Debian, Slack, Gentoo or whatever then I'd consider >>> that a good "weeding agent" and let them pass. >>> >>>.02 >>> >>>-mj >>> >>> >>> >>>>I think one of the great things about linux and >>>>open source is that you're not locked into one vendor's distro. I >>>> think it's important to get that message out so people don't get the >>>> idea that RedHat = Linux. There are always alternatives... >>>> >>>>Personally, I think Debian might be too much for a new user doing an >>>> initial install without assistance. But for a workstation, and for >>>> someone who doesn't want to compile everything, it rocks. The >>>> package management is far superior to rpm, IMHO. >>>> >>>>Slackware's installer is menu driven and straight forward. Accepting >>>> the defaults (like redhat installs) gets you a running system in no >>>> time. It detects most common PC hardware out of the box. It just >>>> works. Makes a great workstation and gives you the flexibility to >>>> learn more when you're ready to start compiling stuff from source. >>>> >>>>distro flames > /dev/null >>>>-- >>>>scot >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>>http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>>https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>--------------------- >>>Jentges.NET, Inc. >>>Voice: 763.783.3702 >>>Cell: 763.370.1201 >>>--------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > --------------------- > Jentges.NET, Inc. > Voice: 763.783.3702 > Cell: 763.370.1201 > --------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list --------------------- Jentges.NET, Inc. 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