On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 12:27, Mark Courtney wrote:
> >From my shopping experience, if you get only a single static IP, the IP
> belongs to the dsl router.  This can still be useful if you do port
> forwarding with the dsl router and forward the ports to a machine
> internally.  This feature may or may not be supported by your current dsl
> router.
> 
With most DSL nowadays, the router is doing PPP, so it gets the IP
address.  The cisco's and ActionTec's (used with Qwest-based DSL) can
handle NAT or routing a block of IP's.  So if you need a real, public
internet IP, and the cisco's port-forwarding features won't work, then
you'll need to pay your ISP for a block of IP's.

I've heard of people that have put the cisco into bridging mode (just
using it as an ATM->Ethernet bridge), and ran PPP through it from their
(Linux) PC (hey, this thread just became On-Topic!)  This is probably
VERY unsupported with most ISP's though.  And I'm not sure what
equipment Frontier is using, but I'd bet it's not the Cisco 600 series. 
But maybe you (Troy) can find a way to do this using your equipment.

Actually, there is an ISP in town that does DSL through TDS Telecom
(a.k.a. Bridgewater, in Monticello/Big Lake).  Their customers buy a
speedstream DSL modem (NOT a router), and run the built-in WinXP PPP
client (for those customers that have XP), which handles the
authentication/IP assignment.


> If you want a single usable static IP for a computer on the LAN side of
> the router, I think you might have to get a block of 8 IPs (5 are usable).
>  I'm not a Cisco wizard, so if I'm wrong here, my feelings won't be hurt
> if somebody corrects me.
> 
> I'm just tryin' to share some knows in hopes that somebody will gimme an
> answer to my "sendmail time warp" thread.
> 
> 
> Mark Courtney
> 
> http://www.MarkCourtney.com
> 
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> > Hi List,
> >
> > I have been using Covad DSL very happily for a year and
> > a half at 1.5mb/128kb for $50/mo. I would like to get a
> > static IP address for a few reasons, so I looked at their
> > upgrade options. I can get 1.5mb/256mb and 1 static IP
> > for $70/mo, but I have been told I have to use their NAT
> > (on the DSL router). This is NOT what I want. For $80/mo
> > I can get the same bandwidth and 5 static IPs and not
> > have to use their NAT. That and they say I have to cancel
> > my current DSL, and when it is "totally cancelled" they can
> > order the new service (which I interpret as "there will be
> > a delay between the end and start of the services, and
> > we don't know how long that will be").
> >
> > Now, that may be true, but it make me want to look for
> > other options. I looked at speakeasy.net, and they look
> > nice, but I wanted to ask here first:
> >
> > Is there anybody using a DSL service with a static IP at
> > around this price range and do you like it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Troy
> >
> 
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