Story of my life with Linux. I changed the permissions on the "www" directory so I could us my account (not root) to create web pages. I checked the name of the directory 3 times it was "www" in the /var directory Now I get a (remember I'm trouble shooting while I'm writing this message) Text based error message blue background, gray foreground like a curses program. "Server Authorization directory (Daemon/ServAuthdir) is set to /var/gdm but is not owned by user gdm and group gdm. Please correct the ownership of gdm configuration /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf and restart gdm" (I'm out of beer so now I'm really upset at this point, lucky I have some margarita in the fridge.) I look up "gdm", it's the "gnome display manager" imagine that! Folks I'm _not_ running gnome, I'm running KDE. So I said to my self "what is causing all this to be a pain?" The answer is "graphical login" that's right, gnome starts to get a graphical login going. http://www.5z.com/jirka/gdm.html says so. My question... Does Linux (the system) turn gnome off when it starts KDE, for us KDE users? I think the answer is "no" because it needs it after a logout to prompt for login. So KDE users get the honor of using both KDE and gnome at the same time? <sidebar> So because I made the mistake, missing the "last" dialog box that says something like "do you want to use a graphical login? with the default of "use a graphical login". I've been cursed with a graphical login. If you remember our brave (ignorant) Linux user is also trying to get rid of the graphical login. See the thread "Lost". In the middle I put something about changing from graphical to terminal login. So I change the "inittab" file so it uses a "3" for multiuser login instead of a "5" for X11 and restart the machine. (Thanks to all for the information) Now this does not solve the original problem, it did stop the message coming up every 2 -5 minutes. Even without X windows running the message would display. Did I say X windows would start KDE without any problem? Well it does, but the message would pop up as above until I change "inittab". OH did I say X windows is running about 20% faster now? OH I didn't, well it is running about 20% faster then when I had the graphical login. Best guess; 2 windows managers were running all the time. Did I say OO Writer starts then it did before the change to a terminal login. Well it starts in 1 minute 25 seconds instead of 1 minute 55 seconds. Yes, I timed it when I first installed it. </sidebar> Back to the original problem... So I set the permissions using the file manager but now the error is (it was before changeling to terminal login) "Server Authorization directory (Daemon/ServAuthdir) is set to /var/gdm but has the wrong permissions, it should have permissions of 0750. Please correct the permissions or the gdm configuration /etc/X11/gem/gdm.conf and restart gdm" For the life of me I can't remember what the "human" values of 0750 are. And I can't remember the command to set permissions. The permissions should be corrected just in case I want to torcher myself with a graphical login in some far off time. Sam. _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list