> From: Jim Crumley <crumley at belka.space.umn.edu>

> Alas, I must pick some nits.
By all means.

> > Audio CD's start at 500 RPM and slow down to 200 RPM. That's 1x.
> > The fast drives go CAV at one speed, and are fastest at the end of
> > a disc, so let's go with 52x200 or 10,400 RPM.
>
> Hopefully your numbers are right here - I didn't check.

That one I'm very sure of. Then again, it is a reported speed,
and is probably rounded for marketing literature.

Looking for citations, found this:
http://www.powerlabs.org/cdexplode.htm in which a guy mounts a CD onto a
Dremel tool for 35000 RPM fun. (With a picture!)

Here we go:
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2000/LawrenceFung.shtml

> > The speed of the edge of a disc v=wr which is the rotational
> > speed times the radius, or 10400RPM * 6cm or 62400cm/min or
> > (uhm... times 1min/60s times 1m/100cm) 10.4m/s (!) or
> > 62400 cm/min (times 60min/1hr times 1mi/160934cm) = 23.26 mph.
>
> w in v=wr is angular frequency, which is radians per second.
> "Regular" frequency is w/(2 pi).  Or v = 2 pi f r.  So the actual
> speed at the edge is 392000 cm/min = 65.3 m/s = 146 mph.

You are correct, of course. Pesky angular units! The second site I
referenced confirms your calculation.

> > CD's have a mass of about 20g. A 1g chunk at 10.4m/s should
> > have 1/2 * m * v * v energy or about 1/20 (need help with unit
> > here...) joule? Or the same energy as a kilogram dropped from
> > a height of 5.5mm. (U = mgh)
>
> A 1 gram chunk at 65.3 m/s would have 2.1 joules of energy.
> While the disk is spinning, its kinetic energy = 1/2 I w^2.  I,
> the moment of inertia is 1/2 m r^2.  So,
> KE_rot = 1/2 (1/2 m r^2) (v/r)^2 = 1/4 m v^2 = 16 J , with
> a CD mass of 15 grams.  For comparison, this is the same as the
> kinetic energy of a golf ball going 59 mph (26 m/s) - which would
> be slow for a golf ball.

And that's all probably correct too, but as soon as the 1g chunk breaks
free, it's just a chunk going in a straight line (for an instant) at 146mph.
I used the linear momentum (1/2 m v^2) equal to potential of mgh, but using
the new numbers, the drop height would be 217mm or 8.6 inches.

Thanks for the correction,
Chris


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