It's not the banks or consultants you need to market too, it's the ATM
manufactures.  People like NCR (a former employeer), IBM, etc.  Their the
ones who stick the OS on the hardware.

NCR use to have a proprietary OS for their ATMs.  They found it cheaper
to just plug in a single board PC and dos and add their own application. 
Same with the latest cash registers.

--- Carl Lindgren <devel_support at crlc.net> wrote:
> > There needs to be a firm that supports these boxen, and that firm
> > needs to be big, so that the bank folks believe it will continue to
> > exist.  Red Hat might only BARELY qualify, and I don't believe
> they're
> > in this market (which is a hardware/software market; supplying
> > software only would not be enough).
> 
> Caldera might be a contender for this with thier accquistion of SCO
> which
> has been a good seller in the banking industry in the past. In my
> opion, I
> don't think Red Hat could do it simply because of the stigma it has as
> being
> a hobiest OS and its passive cororate business model record. Caldera,
> on the
> other hand, has had a very good corporate business model record (thats
> the
> main reason they discontinued thier partnership from Red Hat in the
> first
> place) and has moved thier OS line into position to take full advantage
> of
> this market and other markets that Red Hat up until recently has
> ignored.
> 
> > Red Hat might only BARELY qualify, and I don't believe they're
> > in this market (which is a hardware/software market; supplying
> > software only would not be enough).
> 
> I'm not sure i agree with this totally - Banks and other highly
> regulated
> businesses use Consultants that supply services for hardware and
> support the
> software (mostly for liability reasons).
> 
> >>>
> >Um...  You may want to rethink that statement:
> 
> I didn't mean to say that OpenSource wasn't making progress. I relize
> that
> there are some movment towards OpenSource but its only a small
> percentage of
> the total industry install base.
> 
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Chad Walstrom" <chewie at wookimus.net>
> >To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 9:27 AM
> >Subject: [TCLUG] Some banks trust Linux (was "How to make Linux run on
> a
> floppy disk")
> >>>
> 
> 
> 
> Carl Lindgren
> C. R. Lindgren Consulting
> Minneapolis, MN
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert P. Goldman" <goldman at htc.honeywell.com>
> To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 9:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] How to make Linux run on a floppy disk
> 
> 
> > >>>>> "CL" == Carl Lindgren <devel_support at crlc.net> writes:
> >
> >     >>
> >     >> So, apparently ATMs are x86 clones running DOS (at least the
> text
> based
> >     >> ones).  I wonder why they don't use linux?  Lighter, cheaper,
> more
> secure,
> >     >> flexible, the benefits go on.  Makes ya wonder....
> >     >>
> >
> >     CL> Mostly because the Banking Industry is afraid of OpenSource
> >     CL> and partly because of way Banking Regulators and Policy
> Makers
> >     CL> set policies. This is something the Linux/OpenSource Unix
> >     CL> Communities have to work though to be competitive in that
> >     CL> industry.
> >
> > There needs to be a firm that supports these boxen, and that firm
> > needs to be big, so that the bank folks believe it will continue to
> > exist.  Red Hat might only BARELY qualify, and I don't believe
> they're
> > in this market (which is a hardware/software market; supplying
> > software only would not be enough).  That's the rational side.  The
> > less rational side is the old "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM"
> > (is there a more modern equivalent of this old adage?) phenomenon.
> > Why would a bank purchasing officer want to stick his or her neck out
> > to adopt something new?
> >
> > R
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