On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 12:50:56AM -0500, Matthew S. Hallacy wrote:
>
>I've never had a problem with it, except for mplayer bitching to no end about
>it, after removing the specific anti-redhat code from configure it worked
>absolutely fine.

Actually it's always been an option to ./configure.

>>					 (all the patches they apply to the
>> kernel is another one).
>
>A lot of distributions, including mandrake, debian, suse, etc. add patches
>to the kernel to fix bugs here and there (these eventually make it into 
>the mainstream kernel.

That doesn't make it right. Try supporting that stuff as a kernel code
contributor. Our guys have no end of problems building patches for those
kernels (both for LVM and for our "evil" GFS). The tough thing is that some
customers refuse to run a kernel.org kernel :-( I'm sure that will get even
worse once redhat goes full boar on thier oracle support, our customers
will demand even further for that support.

>
>> 
>> any way you cut it, RedHat is still a commercial entity... on the upside,
>> this means they can pay a bunch of people to do quality control. on the
>> downside, they don't have the customer's interests at heart, as much as
>> something like the Debian Project does. (and it shows. this is why RH won't
>> ship apt4rpm anytime soon... it competes with their revenue model).
>
>I think they have plenty of customer interest at heart, considering the
>number of people using it they're obviously doing something right. 

Hey! WTF! We aggree on something! Knock it off!

>
>They've got a very nice installer, things like kudzu to relieve a lot
>of the pain involved in installing new hardware, and all the GUI tools
>needed to configure the system (Like SuSE or Mandrake) maybe Debian 
>has these things too, I haven't bothered to use a GUI setup under
>debian lately. Perhaps I'll try it in vmware tonight.

Only thing I tire of about debians install is that there's questions to
answer for nearly every package. I'd rather they just went with defaults,
publish them in the changes file and be done with it.

-- 
Ben Lutgens				 | http://people.sistina.com/~blutgens/	
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"I got a wife and kids too but you don't see me out here stealing Imperial
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