There should be a file for the POP3 daemon in the /etc/xinetd.d/ directory. The timeout with the POP3 daemon is probably occurring because it is configured to get connections only from the xinetd daemon, which is fine. Check out the output from 'ipchains -L' and see if you are firewalling the POP3 port (110). Good luck, Troy >>> ray at lctn.k12.mn.us 01/28/02 10:03AM >>> I can see now that ipop3d is not running, It seems to start manually, and says it is ready for a brief time, then says it is closing because of inactivity.When I telnet locally to port 110, it says connection refused. hosts.allow, and hosts.deny are empty, except for some commented lines. In Linuxconf I have ipop2d and ipop3d, but it does not respond to any changes that I try to implement. I have another server that works perfect, which says ipop2d and ipop3d are "enabled on demand". I do not have a inetd.conf, rather xinetd.conf, which I have attached . It doesn't seem to have the info you said I should find. I am able to send mail from the server. Is there something else I need to enable for pop3d to start, or would a removal and new install of ipop3d make the proper conf changes? Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: <florin at iucha.net> To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [TCLUG] no socket error problem