While I can not dismiss your claims about short wave interference, I can say
I have run many computers without a case for extended periods of time and
not run into any such interference.  No AM or FM interference (although I
don't listen to much AM -- occasional WCCO 830AM).  No interference that I
note.  On the contrary, I can often here my cell phone negotiating with the
tower on my FM Stereo in my car (and it is a new and quality system).
Nobody has shown up at my door.  There is a HAM guy in my [old] neighborhood
that has a tower up behind his garage.  No word from him either.

Yes, I agree, use a steel case and put a nice plastic or wood case around
it.

Tom Veldhouse
veldy at veldy.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Grobe" <steveg at transition.com>
To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: [TCLUG] Static electricity (and an offer to buy)


> Tom,
>
> I gotta disagree with you.  If what you said were true every PC
manufacturer
> would ship their product in a plastic case without any shielding.  Take
your
> average home PC and remove it's case and it will fail FCC Class B
(required
> for domestic use) by at least 20dB.  This is not just a problem at the
main
> clock frequency either, consider all the data buses with sub 10nS rise and
> fall times and what you end up with a really nice broadband noise
generator.
> Most PCs do not meet FCC requirements with the case on.  (Over the last
ten
> years I have tested enough of them to know.)
>
> The amount of interference will depend on how close you are to the
radio/TV
> station you are trying to monitor and their broadcast strength.  It may
not
> bother you in the same room trying to listen to KQRS, but your neighbor
down
> the street trying to pick up shortwave transmissions will probably go
nuts.
> If you start interfering with air traffic or police/fire frequencies the
FCC
> can and sometimes will show up and make you shutdown your "transmitter".
>
> A wood/plastic case will not solve the ESD/safety problems either, the
steel
> in a typical computer case also serves as an earth ground for safety
> reasons, a shield from ESD, and most importantly if something fails and
gets
> really hot steel does not easily burn.
>
> I'd find a small steel case and build something that looks nice around it.
>
> Blah, blah, blah........
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas T. Veldhouse [mailto:veldy at veldy.net]
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:11 AM
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Static electricity (and an offer to buy)
>
>
> You are spending too much time in Physics class.  In theory this is
correct,
> but the output is extremely low and should not interfere much with
anything,
> as per FCC regulations.  It would be easier to bring in your FM to your
> receiver using Coax (by nature a RF sealed system, again in theory -- or
you
> wouldn't need shielded cable) than it would to wrap your PC in a Faraday
> cage.  Not to mention, there is software out there to allow you to trasmit
> AM broadcasts using your monitor -- so you need to wrap it as well.
>
> :)
>
> Tom Veldhouse
> veldy at veldy.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jared Burns" <jared-linux at mn.rr.com>
> To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 8:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Static electricity (and an offer to buy)
>
>
> > You machine will emit RF (radio frequency) radiation at the frequency of
> your
> > machine's clock frequency (100kHz, 133kHz, etc.).
> >
> > Make sure you have the components inclosed in a Faraday cage or you and
> your
> > neighbors will have a hard time picking up radio signals (at least
around
> the
> > frequency of your clock) while your machine is running. :)
> >
> > - Jared
> >
> > On Sunday 13 January 2002 02:53 pm, you wrote:
> > > I'm looking at building my own PC, but in a literal sense,
> > > including making a case (why not? to answer your obvious
> > > question.  Actually so that I don't have to have an obvious
> > > computer case if I want it in the living room.)  One option
> > > is to house it in a plastic storage tub, but it suddenly
> > > occured to me that ths may be a static electricity problem
> > > waiting to happen.  Any thoughts from the engineering types?
> > >
> > > As part of building the box, if anyone has a Socket A chip
> > > of any speed they want to get rid of (i.e. if you're
> > > upgrading) I'm in the market.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Paul
> > >
> > >
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