On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 11:25:58AM -0500, Ben Lutgens wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 11:01:18PM -0500, Florin Iucha wrote:
> >On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 10:04:42PM -0500, Jared Burns wrote:
> >I would love a decent classbrowser and an embedded vim. Just don't do it in
> >java, ok?
> >
> I used to complain about java too. But then I was forced to install some
> java stuff that used java2. I realized that I needed to be more familiar
> with the care and feeding of java setups so I decided to install the jdk
> and get some apps. 
> 
> Since undertaking this trip into curiosity, i've come to the conclusion
> that I'd rather use a java app than some gnome or kde based apps. I know
> that it's not comparing apples to apples. But lets take for instance
> accounting software. I wanted a nice GUI based checkbook register with some
> added features. I looked to GNUCash. As I am installing GNUCash I noticed
> it depends on all sorts of shit like guppi, gtkhtml, libxml2, gnumeric and
> a whole host of other stuff. While I understand the benefits of the DLL
> hell that the gnome and kde projects have plunged into from a programmers
> point of view, for the guy who just wants one or two gnome / kde based apps
> it just sucks.
> 
> Then I found moneydance. Installing it was as simple as utarring it to
> /usr/local and running the damn thing. If you chose not to instlal the JDK
> itself you could download a larger tarball that has it all and you're done.
> 
> Sure it takes a while to startup, and each new app requires another JVM but
> hey, RAM is cheap these days. And the apps work great.
> 
> So all in all I've decided java's not so bad. In fact, i've even taken to
> trying to learn how to write a little java and I've found I kinda like it.
> It's a good vehicle for a non-programmer like me to try and learn a little
> bit about programming.

So to resume what you are saying is that it's easier do download a big
file than a lot of small files. (JDK/JRE vs Gnome libraries).

???

florin

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"If it's not broken, let's fix it till it is."

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