By golly Munir, I have to say that by the evidence I see here, you DON'T _really_ recognize the thread is dead. Additionally, neither you nor Florin seem to recognize that these "points" are now, for most, "moot points". Die, thread! DIE!!! >>> nassarmu at mctc.mnscu.edu 09/12/01 01:41PM >>> I recognize the thread is dead, but i still have to say one thing before it dies. Florin; Thank you... for you have put into words all that I wished to say and more.