Crystal has a Java web viewer, true, but it doesn't have as much functionality as the ActiveX viewer - Crystal has made it VERY obvious that while they technically can work with other technologies, their preferred methods are IIS and asp - things not altogether all taht fun to deal with when working with Domino...Keep in mind that all of this has to be packagable and sent on to full license clients -so a Java/XML solution is and ok way to go for just the ASP customers (Application Service Provider not active server page) but not as good a solution for our full license clients. And no, we're not using Enterprise *yet* and I'm a large reason why simply because I won't allow the upgrade without full testing and we just don't have the personnel to do the testing and development....(tech staff still numbers 4) I do most of the Crystal/Notes administrative work - in addition to product development...needless to say, there are so many hours in the day to get everything done *chuckle*. BUT - that being the case, I'm still pushing moving us to a more platform independent view. We *claim* platform independence simply because of the Notes/Domino backend - but in reality until we get rid of Crystal, we're pretty much stuck in M$-land at least partially. Liz -- Imagination is intelligence having fun... e-mail: kethry at winternet.com URL: http://WWW.winternet.com/~kethry/index.html