Why yes, yes I have/do use os X. but more importantly I use X.1, which is a much better offering. It has support for dvd and way better memory management. I have access to a shell that is fairly configureable. There is no bash by default, but there is tcsh , csh , sh, and if you grap the fink package you are set. fink is a debian like apt-get'r. It is pretty sweet. You have to install the developer software to have your compiler and fun stuff, but there are a ton of possiblities with this OS. You can even login in as >console and be in a for real console mode. I compiled X on my box but I have yet to configure it, but yes I do have X on darwin, cool stuff. I recommend anyone with a mac to try X.1, X will just make you mad. One thing I am still waiting for is IrDa support, tha t is the only reason I leave 9.2 hanging around at all. Mac OS offers a combination that you just can't find anywhere else. Of course the install is lame and has a HUGE security hole, but hey what do you expect from a company named apple???????? * David Blevins (dmblevins at mediaone.net) wrote: > I've been hearing a lot about FreeBSD since Apple integrated it into the Mac > OS X. An integration like this doesn't happen over night, I imagine that > Apple has been funding the project for quite some time. With Apple's focus > on usability, it's no wonder FreeBSD's user-friendliness is a bit of an > anomaly. > > The first thing I think is "Why FreeBSD and not Linux?" > > Regardless, the idea of a UNIX underbelly with a slick Mac GUI system is > like a dream come true. The question is, can I still get down and dirty > into the UNIX side, does it still feel like UNIX under the hood? > > Anyone here tried out OS X yet? > > David > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: tclug-list-admin at mn-linux.org > > [mailto:tclug-list-admin at mn-linux.org]On Behalf Of Austad, Jay > > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 8:49 AM > > To: 'tclug-list at mn-linux.org' > > Subject: [TCLUG] Freebsd lovin' > > > > > > Ok, I know this is a linux list and all, but I just installed FreeBSD 4.4, > > and well... It rocks. I used the mini-iso image, which fits on one of > > those little 3 inch CDRs. > > > > Primarily, I did it for a qmail server. With linux, I was limited to 509 > > concurrent outgoing connections without patching the kernel, and no patch > > exists for the 2.4 kernels (at least that I could find). With FreeBSD, I > > just add -DFD_SETSIZE=65536 to the compile options for qmail, and I'm able > > to do over 32,000 concurrent outgoing connections, about 60 times > > more than > > linux. I don't have it set that high of course, but, the ability > > is there. > > > > > > And installing software from the ports tree works excellent. I tried > > downloading apachetoolbox (apachetoolbox.com) and couldn't get it > > to compile > > correctly, so I just went into the ports directory into each directory for > > apache+modssl, mod_php4, and mysql, and did a make/make install > > in each one. > > No errors, and it installed everything perfectly. > > > > If you haven't tried freebsd, now is a good time to give it a shot. I > > selected the express install (and then just the development > > package) on the > > cd, and then set up networking before I rebooted. My roommate > > did a regular > > install and he had problems, but he was probably smoking crack. > > > > Jay > > _______________________________________________ > > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. > > Paul, Minnesota > > http://www.mn-linux.org > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > Spencer Butler Twin Cities Open Systems http://tcos.stderr.net 6126368989 at voicestream.net