<rant>Mandrake 8.0 *could* be a good distribution, and actually probably is. However, I've installed it on about 9 or 10 different boxes, and only one install worked with no problems. I tried the Recommended install on several of the boxes, and different packages were installed on each box, almost like it just randomly chose packages to install. By default it doesn't install bind-utils (nslookup), a telnet client, or traceroute. If you try to install a text only version (no X), it installs X anyway, even if you unselect it and end the install before you get to the "configure X" section. I had the same problem Andy is having on one of the boxes, and I reinstalled using the exact same options, and it then worked fine. I'm fairly disappointed with Mandrake for releasing 8.0 in the state that it's in. It could be a very good distro, especially for beginners, but because of all of the random errors that I've seen with it, I'm convinced that it needs some serious work. Hopefully 8.1 and 8.2 will address all of the problems. </rant> -----Original Message----- From: Andy Zbikowski (Zibby) [mailto:zibby at ringworld.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:16 AM To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Linux Newbie - Help Check your ~/.xsession-errors and/or ~/.gnome-errors for error messages that are session related. Error messages from your display manager (KDM/GDM/XDM) usually go somewhere under /var/log. (/var/log/gdm/\:0.log for gdm.) It may be useful to tail these files from the console to figure out what the heck is going on. (tail -f /var/log/gdm/\:0.log /var/log/syslog /var/log/authlog ~/.xsession-errors etc...) One thing you should do is clean up that localhost thing and give your box a name. This can be done by changing /etc/hostname and correctly editing /etc/hosts. Basically you'll want whatever name you choose to point at the loopback interface. An entry like: 127.0.0.1 boxname localhost should be more or less correct. I'm mostly suggesting this because boxen named localhost bug the hell out of me, but it sounds like things are failing on gethostname(). KPPP might have mangled /etc/hosts. This is the best guess I can make without more error log output. :) | Andrew S. Zbikowski | Home: 763.591.0977 | | http://www.ringworld.org | Work: 763.428.9119 | | http://www.itouthouse.com | PCS: 612.306.6055 | | His power apparently lies in his ability to | | choose incompetent enemies. | | - Crow T. Robot, MST3K, "Prince of Space" | _______________________________________________ tclug-list mailing list tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list