<rant>Mandrake 8.0 *could* be a good distribution, and actually probably is.
However, I've installed it on about 9 or 10 different boxes, and only one
install worked with no problems.  I tried the Recommended install on several
of the boxes, and different packages were installed on each box, almost like
it just randomly chose packages to install.  By default it doesn't install
bind-utils (nslookup), a telnet client, or traceroute.  

If you try to install a text only version (no X), it installs X anyway, even
if you unselect it and end the install before you get to the "configure X"
section.

I had the same problem Andy is having on one of the boxes, and I reinstalled
using the exact same options, and it then worked fine.  I'm fairly
disappointed with Mandrake for releasing 8.0 in the state that it's in.  It
could be a very good distro, especially for beginners, but because of all of
the random errors that I've seen with it, I'm convinced that it needs some
serious work.  Hopefully 8.1 and 8.2 will address all of the problems.
</rant>

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Zbikowski (Zibby) [mailto:zibby at ringworld.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:16 AM
To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Linux Newbie - Help

Check your ~/.xsession-errors and/or ~/.gnome-errors for error messages
that are session related. Error messages from your display manager
(KDM/GDM/XDM) usually go somewhere under /var/log. (/var/log/gdm/\:0.log
for gdm.) It may be useful to tail these files from the console to figure
out what the heck is going on. (tail -f /var/log/gdm/\:0.log
/var/log/syslog /var/log/authlog ~/.xsession-errors etc...)

One thing you should do is clean up that localhost thing and give your box
a name. This can be done by changing /etc/hostname and correctly editing
/etc/hosts. Basically you'll want whatever name you choose to point at the
loopback interface.
An entry like:
127.0.0.1 boxname localhost
should be more or less correct. I'm mostly suggesting this because boxen
named localhost bug the hell out of me, but it sounds like things are
failing on gethostname(). KPPP might have mangled /etc/hosts. This is the
best guess I can make without more error log output. :)

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