On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 11:26:19PM -0500, Bob Tanner wrote: >I understand that banning yahoo.com and hotmail.com is a pain in the butt. If >their abuse department would even -acknowledge- the fact that they have spammers >I would lift the ban. bah! To hell with it, you got my vote. Hell, this is a linux list, perhaps people could install an MTA, register a domainname and serve thier own mail. As if I don't have enough to do.... > >But mail to abuse gives you the auto-gen response and they never follow up. I >have even tried a phone call and got a very polite support tech who told me I >have to work with the abuse department. > >FAQs: > >Q: Can't you just let me through? >A: Mailman does not have a way to identify just 'you'. I can pattern > match on any SMTP header, but those can be easily forged. >Q: Can't you do a POP-before-SMTP hack thing? >A: I could, but I don't really want to maintain a list of accounts on my server > for all the TCLUG users who want to post. >A: The problem where facing is not really a relaying problem, which the > POP-before-SMTP thing addresses. We are facing a problem where spammers sign > up for accounts en-mass and then attempt to sign those accounts up to the > mailing list, so they can spam the list. All the lists we have only allow > posting to the list if you are a subscriber. >Q: I have -only- yahoo mail or hotmail, I can't do email anywhere else. >A: I personally find that hard to believe. Neither of these services provide > physical connectivity to the 'net, so you should be able to post to the list > from your isp account. If your isp does not provide email/pop services, then > I guess your are screwed :-) -But- what type of isp does not provide email > services? >Q: This sucks. (ok, not really a question) >A: Yes it does. Look at it from my stand point. I deal with over 100,000 spam > messages a day. As an isp we are on the front-lines of the spam war. All I > ask is that you post from your isp account. >Q: You suck for doing this to me. >A: While it may look like I am doing this just to -you-, I am really doing it to > protect the other subscribers on the list. Spam makes the list look bad. We > all get enough spam already, I don't want to add to it. Spam make -me- look > bad, like I cannot secure the mailing list server. But most of all, this is a > democracy, and the majority rules. The majority want spam free mailing list. > I am attempting to provide this. > >As always, I am open to comments and complaints via personal email. >-- >Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> | Phone : (952)943-8700 >http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 >Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9 > >_______________________________________________ >tclug-list mailing list >tclug-list at mn-linux.org >https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -- Ben Lutgens Sistina Software Inc. Kernel panic: I have no root and I want to scream -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20010613/07919301/attachment.pgp