I'll chime in. I haven't done a lot of development in any of the environments but have tinkered extensivly with Zope and PHP and perl CGI. I find Zope a lot easier to use, once you get your head wrapped around it. This is getting easier to do as new tools, like the CMF, which I haven't played with extensivly, are added. I tried using Enhydra but since I'm more of a python programmer than a Java coder I had trouble wrapping my brain around Enhydra. Compared to PHP, DTML (Zope's internal template language) is similar to PHP but les complete. That's in part due to the fact that Zope "modularizes" certain functions. Instead of having database commands in DTML it has DB adapters that allow you to create a link object in the Zope Object DB that hooks to your external DB (I've used PostgreSQL). Against these you can create SQL query objects (ZSQL methods). These objects then "publish" the results of a query as a python dictionary object (I think that's right). This can be used as a variable in other DTML code. Come see Tim's presentation it will explain this better I'm sure. ;-) I've tried a bunch of things and I keep coming back to Zope. Part of it is python. I really like the language. Right now I'm experimenting with Zope, WebDAV, and a couple of tools one publishes PDFs with python, the other allows you to store MS Word docs as Zope objects and render them as HTML on the fly. Sorry for rambling long on this one. Jack On Wednesday 11 July 2001 15:04, you wrote: > Has anybody on this list had a chance to develop with Zope? If so, can > somebody comment on their experience with it, as opposed to other web > application environments such as PHP or JSP containers? > > Tom Veldhouse > veldy at veldy.net > > _______________________________________________ > tclug-list mailing list > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -- Jack Ungerleider jack at jacku.com