Have you tried using the Mozilla IMAP client yet? I have no idea if it would be fast enough for you, but it is worth a try. Bret. On Thursday 06 December 2001 11:16 am, you wrote: > > I don't know if this helps or not, but I just read that IBM > > is producing a Domino server that is supposed to "play well > > with Outlook". I think if I remember correctly it's based on Linux. > > Have you used Domino though? I have, it sucks bigtime. > > Anyway, I just need something to run under linux that will play well with > exchange and use all of the scheduling features, and handle my enormous > mailbox. Every single IMAP client I try either seg faults halfway through > grabbing my message headers, is abysmally slow, or doesn't find all of my > folders. > > Jay > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Austad, Jay [mailto:austad at marketwatch.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:54 PM > > To: 'tclug-list at mn-linux.org' > > Subject: RE: [TCLUG] ms outlook under WINE? > > > > > Wow. why in the world would a person need/want/think about > > > 50K messages > > > in a mailbox? > > > > I'm on many different mailing lists for various software > > packages, security lists, and other things. Plus, I get > > several hundred emails a week from people I work with on > > various issues. I get nearly 1000 messages a day, and most > > get deleted. I delete what I can do without, but I really > > need to keep as much around as possible in case I need to > > look back on it. I lost about 3 months of mail from late > > 1999, and I find myself needing to go back and find stuff > > from then fairly often. My mailbox tends to act as my memory > > for almost all of my work related stuff. If I delete > > something, chances are I will forget the details of it 3 months later. > > > > One of the Kmail developers told me that Outlook uses IMAP to > > pull mail from an exchange server, but I think he's wrong. > > Outlook connects to ports 1225 and 1226 on the exchange > > server, not the IMAP port. Exchange sends notifications to > > the client when new mail arrives also, with IMAP, you have to > > check every few minutes. Having the scheduling, mail, task > > lists, and other things all together is actually nice once > > you've gotten used to it. I'm much more productive now that I > > was at my last company where we had separate systems for > > everything, and no integrated scheduling. I think the > > concept of Exchange/Lotus Notes is right, but the > > implementations suck. Outlook is bloated and slow, Exchange > > is buggy, Notes just plain sucks ass in all respects (except > > for the "runs on Solaris" part). PHPGroupware is nice, but > > the requirement of a web interface to use it sucks, although, > > I think they are working on a KDE or GNOME client that just > > pulls and posts XML in the background. > > > > Isn't The Kompany working on an integrated system for > > Aethera? Or was that the gnome people for Evolution? Right > > now, there are no open standards for this type of thing, and > > there needs to be. Even better, whatever kind of server that > > ends up getting developed for linux needs to have some sort > > of connector to MS Exchange so companies could have a nice > > easy migration path, instead of just tearing out one system > > and replacing it with another. And it also needs to have > > some sort of clustering/redundancy built in. Notes and > > Exchange have a rather poor implementation of clustering, but > > it does work, and it will most likely save your ass if one of > > the servers dies/crashes/explodes. I know I wouldn't > > implement any kind of mailserver solution in a large > > corporate environment without some sort of failover > > (preferably transparent). Failover should be easy, just > > replicate every database transaction to your standby server, > > and use tools from the linuxHA project to do the actual > > failover monitoring. I don't know how easy it is to > > replicate both ways, but if it was easy, setting up a cluster > > using the linux virtual server would be fairly trivial also. > > > > Bah, enough of my ranting. I have work to do. In fact, work > > to do on mailservers, something which I'm quite sick of. > > > > Jay > > > > > duncan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. > > > Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org > > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > https://mailman.mn-> linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. > > Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > https://mailman.mn-> linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. > > Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > https://mailman.mn-> linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -- Bret Baptist Systems and Technical Support Specialist bbaptist at iexposure.com Internet Exposure, Inc. http://www.iexposure.com (612)676-1946 x17 Web Development-Web Marketing-ISP Services ------------------------------------------ -- Missiles of ligneous or osteal consistency have the potential of fracturing osseous structure, but appellations will eternally remain innocuous.