I was under the impression, that they were one in the same. When I downloaded OpenOffice the same install screen as Star Office pops up with a word or two changed. Sun is the sponsor of the OpenOffice website and there is even a Star Office logo on the OpenOffice site. OpenOffice 6 is out or due out soon and Star Office 6 is due soon. Are there functional differences between the two? (Or are you just yanking my chain?) OpenOffice, screw star office. The last presentation I did was created in it, worked great. http://www.ringworld.org/~dieman/slides/dns-tclug/img0.htm The output was great, and it converted into the microsoft application fine when I put it on a windows CE device to present it. -- Scott Dier <dieman at ringworld.org> <sdier at debian.org> http://www.ringworld.org/ #linuxos at irc.openprojects.net _______________________________________________