On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:46:09 -0500
"Miller, John" <JMiller2 at dainrauscher.com> wrote:

> Well I tried that.  If we back up a bit, if eth0 is connect to a hub,
> should not the hub light be lit.  

Yes.. unless that hub link LED is on, all bets are off for communication.
It sounds like the card & hub are unable to negotiate a speed setting -
I've seen that before. Sometimes the particular combination of card(s) and
hub (or switch) will create negotiation issues. 

Oddly enough, the last time I saw a negotiation problem, it was between a
Netgear 10/100 switch and a Netgear PCI NIC. The Netgear parts would
negotiate if they were alone, but when the switch was daisy-chained to an
second SMC 10baseT hub, they could not get along. However, I swapped in an
Intel Pro/100 for the Netgear NIC, and all worked fine.

In any event, until you see a link LED on both ends of the wire, don't
even waste your time with drivers, etc. Until that phyical layer is happy,
nothing else will work.

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