Earlier, Kylix was promoted and trying Kylix open edition was encouraged. It sounded perfect for some of my interests. I tried a TCLUG member's private download offering. The format apparently was not *.tar.gz as the extension indicated. But the package opened as a folder. The Kylix setup process worked nicely, though. But (as another noted) you still needed to obtain registration keys from Borland. Frustrated, I tried to uninstall Kylix but could only delete what I could find on my system. So I went to Borland's site, went through their disfunctional registration process four or more times over two days and finally got the keys. Once successful, I then decided to download Borland's copy of Kylix_oe. When I opened their *.tar.gz the setup script was missing. So I went back to the earlier copy, reinstalled it, filled in the key fields, and registered a second time (as required). Now the Kylix_oe looks just like what I hoped for. Just like VB3 with Pascal. A very nice IDE. Still, I don't like people messing with my time, trust, or computer system.