I'm thinking about getting a joystick for my computer, because: a. it might be cool if I ever get around to playing FPS games b. they look kind of cool and make you appear to be a much harder-core computer user (to many people). c. I'm noticing a decided lack of doodads, gimcracks, & gewgaws attached to my computer. d. I haven't ever owned one before. so what do people like, for jostick models out there? I'm pretty picky about how ergonomic the button layout is; and it better work *completely* under linux; but I have virtually no experience with them. what are people's advices about joysticks? Carl Soderstrom -- Network Engineer Real-Time Enterprises (952) 943-8700