> 2. Alternatively, is there some way to make sawfish be more clever > about the way it treats a kde app like kppp? One (admittedly half-baked) solution is to run with two panels -- one KDE taskbar and one for Gnome. I'm not exactly sure how to set that up, but it should be possible. -- _ _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ ___ _ _ __ Don't count your Electoral / \/ \(_)| ' // ._\ / - \(_)/ ./| ' /(__ Votes before they're cast. \_||_/|_||_|_\\___/ \_-_/|_|\__\|_|_\ __) [ Mike Hicks | http://umn.edu/~hick0088/ | mailto:hick0088 at tc.umn.edu ]