Arrgh! I picked up one of the translucent blue ATX cases (looks a little like a MacG3) a few months back. It was missing the internal hardware, but I figured it was no big deal - hardware is hardware. Here is a pic of the case: http://www.transnet-inc.com/CaseAquaBlue.html Well, it turns out that this case uses PROPRIETARY hardware, most annoyingly, the mounting standoffs for the motherboard. Unless I can find a handful of these 2-cent parts, this $100.00 case is going to be a doorstop (and I already own plenty of those). I wrote the people at the above site, and they responded with "Sorry, but we cannot sell them (the parts) to you". No further explanation. Does anyone know where I can get enough of these standoffs to mount the board? maybe from another builder that had extras? Or plan B - could someone suggest a good case from Tran / GNS that would be suitable for a hardware hacker like me to build a Duron 700 system in? Will I *need* a 300W supply? (I plan to u/g to a 1.2 or better T-bird in a year or so...) P.S. Plan B sucks. -- Bill Layer Sales Technician <b.layer at vikingelectronics.com> +----------------------------------+ Viking Electronics, Inc. 1531 Industrial St. Hudson, WI. 54016 - U.S.A 715.386.8861 ext. 210 <http://www.vikingelectronics.com> +----------------------------------+ "Telecom Solutions for the 21st Century" Powered by Slackware Linux 7.1.0