This is SOP for about half the recruiting firms in town.  Best way out of 
it is to remove yourself from Quux's interest.  You can try asking to have 
your resume removed from their files, but that's no guarantee.  Worst case, 
you need to call Quux in about a week, and lie and tell them you found a 
job, preferably at some small shop they know nothing about (make up a name 
if you have to).  They'll ask for a phone number, tell them "you know how 
it goes, no phone yet" but you'll call as soon as you have the number. 
 Call them from home in the evening to make it look good.

Problem is, as long you're actively looking and haven't called them off, 
they'll spoil many of your submissions.  Most places will simply throw your 
resume away if they see duplicate submissions (or used to, before the labor 
market got so tight).

For your question, it's best to keep those things straight upfront, but 
even then, that's no guarantee.  The sweatshop recruiting shops will pass 
the resume around, and while you may have made an arrangement with one 
recruiter, there's no guarantee a different recruiter won't send it out. 
 Best bet is to find out who's good through your network of friends and 
associates, and only work with those folks.

       - Dave



-----Original Message-----
From:	John J. Trammell [SMTP:trammell at nitz.hep.umn.edu]
Sent:	Friday, December 01, 2000 10:39 AM
To:	tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
Subject:	[TCLUG] advice [OT]

Hello LUGgers:

I'm a newbie in the job search arena, and could use some advice
on how to avoid a certain situation in the future.

Say, hypothetically speaking, that you have a friend that just
got a new job at company Foo via job-finding company Quux (rhymes
with "sucks", as in "rat bastard fuckers die die die") Jobfinders
Inc.

This friend encourages you to apply for another position that's
open at Foo; you do this, and in addition you ask the boys at Quux
to see if they can locate some position for you.

You find yourself fucked, because what does Quux do but send your
resume off to Foo?  Now Foo wants to hire you, but Quux says that
Foo owes them some sort of finder's fee, even though you have a
contact of your own at Foo, and really didn't get anything from
Quux.  Foo won't hire you because this fee is exorbitant, and
why the hell should Quux get dime one anyhow?

So how do other people manage this situation?  My thought is that
I should have made some agreement with Quux from the beginning that
they had to have my permission to send my resume to Foo; once this
was done, Foo was "theirs" and if they found a job there, they were
entitled to the fee.  This would leave me free to search on my own
at Bar and Baz, Inc.

Any other ways out of this?

Regards,
J

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