I live in St. Paul off of Como Ave. and Hwy 280 and I cannot get DSL. Go figure! ---------------------------------------------- Jon Erickson NEI College of Technology Work - 763.782.7342 Fax - 763.782.7329 ---------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Adam Maloney [mailto:adamm at sihope.com] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 9:04 AM To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: RE: [TCLUG:20646] Root login + Free hosting My point was that if you call US-West and order a 256k pipe, you'll train at whatever speed you can, 512, 768 or whatever. So why pay extra for a 512k line that you'd get anyways. Regardless, more bandwidth does not mean everything is faster. Most of the things I do online don't and can't eat up more than 256k. The speed that people look for is latency, not pipe size. Q3 is great at 256k. It's only better on ethernet because there's hardly any latency compared to the 30-40ms we see on DSL. Besides that, most anything you download is going to be bottlenecked either at the backbone or at the other end. Most ISP's have a single T-1 to the internet. The only reason I could see more than 256k is if you're planning on transferring large amounts of data from more than 1 place simultaneously. Most things you download won't be able to peg a 256k DSL line (or the ISP on the other end or backbone won't support it). If you did something where you had, say, a 256k stream to one ISP and a 256k stream to another ISP and needed to have them going simultaneously (2 downloads, a download and a streaming video/audio clip...) But if you can afford it, or if you can justify it more bandwidth certainly doesn't hurt. Adam Maloney Systems Administrator Sihope Communications On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > I have 256 - and I would very much like more bandwidth. Just about any > activity on the Internet could benefit from a faster pipe. > > Tom Veldhouse > veldy at veldy.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: tclug-list-return-20698-veldy=veldy.net at mn-linux.org > [mailto:tclug-list-return-20698-veldy=veldy.net at mn-linux.org]On Behalf > Of Adam Maloney > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 10:40 PM > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG:20646] Root login + Free hosting > > > IMHO, ordering more than a 256k line is absurd. USWest is now Qwest won't > guarantee you any amount of bandwidth, whether you buy a 512k or a 7MB > pipe. Now that they stopped rate-limiting at the CO, you'll train at > whatever speed your line is capable of. > > Incidentally, I found out that they stopped rate shaping at the DSLAM > because they are going to stream some sort of local content to their > subscribers...but the tarrif (sp) requires them to do the same for all the > non USWest.net customers as well. > > Adam Maloney > Systems Administrator > Sihope Communications > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, ^chewie wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 04:09:11PM -0700, John S. wrote: > > > I'm in Burnsville, on a 512kb Dsl, provided by Qwest > > > and Visi.com. Maybe you should move??? > > > > I'm in Uptown, just off Hennapin, and my 256K DSL w/Qwest and Visi.com > > is going live on the 7th. ;-) *whee* Do you see a large benefit with > > the extra 256K? > > > > -- > > Chad "^chewie, gunnarr" Walstrom <chewie at wookimus.net> > > http://wookimus.net/chewie > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org > For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org > For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org