Re: [TCLUG:628] Linux in the StarTribune

[Benjamin Kochie <ben@intexp.com>]

hot key, or no hotkey.. users still X out all the netscape windows, and
consider the application closed.  ("why is my mac so slow.." "you have 5
apps open" "i do?")  this is not an un-common occurance, and tends to
happen more often in the mac world.. i have found one or two people who
have gon berzerk because "my programs got deleted!!!" in windows 3.1,
where their icon groups got minimized. (haha) win3.1 had some of the idea
down.. make programs indepenant of any app framework, win95 steped back in
the mac direction, locking all programs to a bar.  but having the bar show
all the applications, instead of putting them under the monolithic
task-switch icon on macs (a poor choice leftover from multi-finder.. that
was a fun addon)  yes, you can addon key-switching between apps, but when
users don't know how to tab between fields in an entry box (username and
password) keys switching is useless.  

On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Christopher Reid Palmer wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Ben Kochie wrote:
> 
> > i agree, look at the GNOME project, it's GTK license is a little bit
> > better than the Qt one.
> 
> Well, *free*, so yeah. :)
> 
> > and i disagree with the "Apple is the real innovator" yes.. they had a 
> > nice interface.. keyword "had"
> 
> I have to disagree. Apple's interface superiority is still in the present
> tense, though as you mention it is not perfect. 
> 
> > even the new advanced 8.1 interface is no improvement over the 6.x interface..
> 
> Well, that's an axaggeration...no better than the 7.x interface, I'd say.
> <bigotry type="OS_religion">But it didn't *need* to be fixed, 
> see...</bigotry> :)
> 
> > sure,
> > you get multiple file copies, but you still don't get a good application
> > switching system, even the win95 task bar is better.  the best interface
> > i've been able to find yet is AfterStep. (1.5 is really nice, tho more
> > dificult to config so far)  
> 
> Window managers can provide a look and feel, but no more than that (and
> that's not nothing). But interface issues pervade the design of the entire 
> system. X, nice window manager or no, is not designed for the kind of
> cross-app consistency that the Mac is good for. KDE and GNOME are steps in
> this direction, which is why I'm so happy about them -- they're more than
> just wms.
> 
> Besides, you can hot-key between apps in MacOS. :)
> 
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