RE: [TCLUG:22973] Samba Exchange Plugins

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Subject: RE: [TCLUG:22973] Samba Exchange Plugins
From: "Austad, Jay" <austad@marketwatch.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 09:42:18 -0500
I'm talking a drop in replacement for Exchange though.  Make it use RADIUS
or some other method to authenticate against the windows domain (radius is
probably the easiest way), make it talk to a database that supports
replication and transactions (oracle or postgres) and clustering for storing
mailboxes, make all of the calendar and scheduling crap work.  Users
shouldn't have to change any settings at all when it gets dropped in, and no
features work differently. 

You wouldn't believe what MS want's for licensing fees on Exchange.  They
charge by mailbox, and the quote at my last job was around $100 per mailbox.
I left before they could implement it, but then they went with Lotus notes
on Solaris instead.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Sandquist [mailto:tsandqui@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 9:17 AM
To: 'tclug-list@mn-linux.org'
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:22973] Samba Exchange Plugins


Check this link out:

http://www.arrayservices.com/projects/Exchange-HOWTO/html/book1.html

It's not Exchange compatible, but it probably has similar functionality.
I wouldn't know I've had very little exposure to Exchange. 

The project uses sendmail and ldap for email and directory services.
Both sendmail and ldap can 'cluster'.


Tim

On Sat, Oct 21, 2000 at 01:07:28AM -0500, Austad, Jay wrote:
> Is this just a plugin so that Microsoft LookOut! users can just point
their
> mail program at the samba box for an exchange server?  
> 
> The protocol that exchange uses between it and it's mail clients is a
> firewall administrators nightmare.  It uses like 3 or 4 different ports,
> both UDP and TCP, and uses RPC (so you have to edit the registry on the
> exchange server to bind the rpc ports to 2 specific ports).  Looks like MS
> is finally starting to think about the firewall nightmares they create,
> win2k uses port 445/tcp for drive/folder sharing now.  It still opens the
> old ones, but you don't need them, it's just for backwards compatibility
> with nt and 9x.
> 
> I wish they would fix that horrid protocol, then I wish someone would come
> out with a decent exchange clone for unix, with clustering and all that
fun
> stuff.  Set it up once and let it run...
> 
> Jay
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelly Black [mailto:blackk100@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 12:59 AM
> To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG:22973] Samba Exchange Plugins
> 
> 
> Right. But does any code exist?  It would be fun to torture an NT server 
> running Exchange.
> 
> Kelly Black
> 
> 
> >From: Scott Dier <dieman@ringworld.org>
> >Reply-To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
> >CC: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
> >Subject: Re: [TCLUG:22973] Samba Exchange Plugins
> >Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 00:29:17 -0500
> >
> >Thats because they dont exist.
> >
> >You have been reading a developers list, this was in refrence to a
> >roadmap for future revisions of samba(-tng).
> >
> >* Kelly Black <blackk100@hotmail.com> [001021 00:06]:
> > > Does anyone know where this Exchange Plugin for the Samba code can be 
> >found?
> > > Sounds like it would be fun to play with.  I heard about it in the 
> >latest
> > > Samba Newsletter, but could not find it anywhere.
> > >
> > > http://kt.linuxcare.com/samba/latest.epl
> > >
> > > The reference was...
> > >
> > > Note that I've not included Exchange plugins here. I think I would 
> >consider
> > > that to be a separete project (beyond this scope).
> > >
> > > Is this Samba vaporware, or am I just mis-reading this.
> > >
> > > Kelly Black
> > > (I need to get new e-mail if MS is moving this free mail crap to W2K)
> > > 
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