RE: Re: [TCLUG:5285] NTS4 vs. Linux study from Mindcraft.

[chad@speed-racer.com]

all i will say on the topic is this, 1:  no  os is right for everyone in every sistuation
2: as someone who has worked on m$'s os's for a while i will take almost any 
other os instead if i have the choice, or the chance, to do so.  
ms makes a great and snazzy product, makes ya want to use it, then it bombs 
out on you.  you think," hhmm..lets try that again, it probably just had a brain fart". 
 but then it does it again, and again, and again. then add to the fact that the 
systems get biger and bigger.  yea i know prices are dropping on hardware all the 
time, but that is no reason why i should have to do a full system upgrade every 
year or so...or at the least new/bigger hdd's. i don't want a 300-500 meg os that is 
slow, has poor memory management, zero security, and continually bombs out.  i 
want something that is fast, responsve, stable, able to stay on old hardware, 
relatively small ....okokok..i'l get off the soap box....
but your right, how often do you hear people go off on support of winxx?


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>Going through that article and the comments made me wonder if 
>there are any people who are as strong advocates of NT as the
>"ordinary linux at home user" is of linux.
>
>I am kind of sure that mindcrafts mailboxes are going to be
>flooded with a lot of flames from "linux-huggers!" I do not
>ever see many Pro-WinXX comments from readers as there are pro-linux
>on the "linux-vs-WinXX" articles.
>
>Take no notice of me. I am just plain bored right now and not
>the least bit sleepy. I guess that is the reason why I am butting
>into this "discussion" if there is any, since I usually stay 
>away from those debates of this kind. 
>--
>
>Scott Dier wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, its been done.
>> 
>> www.zdnet.com/sr/stories/issure/0,4537,2196106,00.html
>> 
>> Smart Reseller has been running a ton of pro-linux benchmarks and such
>> too other than this one.  So existing evidence is there that linux does
>> beat nt.
>> 
>> On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 pani@frontiernet.net wrote:
>> 
>> > Scott Dier wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hello, If you havent seen on Slashdot allreaday --
>> > >
>> > > Mindcraft has released a report saying that NT is faster for web and file
>> > > serving.  Go read it.  Check out some of the graphs.  Like the apache one,
>> > > where it just drops off in the middle of the graph.  Why?
>> > I guess all that we need to do is prove them wrong eh ?  Which
>> > would mean duplicate the tests and see how they measure up.
>> >
>> > But then it would take the fun out of all the "discussions" that
>> > this is going to spawn. :-).
>> >
>> > I hope somebody from the "linux" turf with the know-how carries
>> > out the same test in the immediate future and show us all "how
>> > wrong" mindcraft is.
>> >
>> > my 2c,
>> > sandipan
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Because Mindcraft is a bunch of inept sysadmins.  So when your boss 
goes
>> > > NT is better than Linux, you can tell them about these facts.
>> > >
>> > > Mindcraft turned off "widelinks" in samba.   From the original author of
>> > > Samba he said that with it turned off it takes 6 more function calls to
>> > > perform operations.  That sounds like it would probally run faster
>> > > (Someone should get around and prove this.)
>> > >
>> > > Secondly, the apache stuff can be explained by one thing : File
>> > > Descriptors.  You can change them to higher numbers if you want, but
>> > > Mindcraft left them at the standard number.  So while the computer *was
>> > > not* hitting its max CPU, it was waiting for a file descriptor.  Mindcraft
>> > > could have reconfigured the kernel and had /much/ better performance and
>> > > see that Apache, while it might not be faster -- scales much better than
>> > > IIS does.  I saw an article from a /long/ time ago on a zdnet site that
>> > > showed apache scaling from 100 to a ton more (1000+ i think) as a flat
>> > > line for latency of getting pages.  Thats cool :)
>> > >
>> > > Really, I'm throwing this forth as a discussion object and as something so
>> > > when the FUD hits the non-techies and they ask you about it you have
>> > > something concrete that you know is right.
>
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