All fixed. I had user nobody's shell /bin/sync in /etc/passwd (I read that somewhere) and that was messing up the script and the module problem was from using syntax for the old version of modutils in /etc/conf.modules. Thanks, Ben Ben Luey lueyb@carleton.edu ICQ: 19144397 On most occasions, it is much easier to apologize than to get permission. --Captain Grace Hopper (U.S. Navy)