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Re: (ASCEND) v.90

Brett,

If you think that poorly of Ascend, then why stay on this list?  I agree
that Ascend has had some code problems and such, but can you tell me that
your phone company has not ever given you fits over your lines or made
mistakes in your service, or that your service to your customers has never
been flaky?  Ascend has a lot of users and trying to please everyone at
the same time is difficult...yes, they could do things and test things a
little better, but overall, it is still a good product....my customers
think that they get great performance from my dialup ( I do have a few
that still get phantom connections or frequent disconnects, but that is a
select few)!!!

I beleive Kevin has always be straight with this group and from what I
have seen of the people testing the beta V.90 code postings (or the lack
of what they are saying), I would infer that the code is excellent...I
believe one tester stated that "he could not comment on the beta, but he
would say that he has not gone back to the previously released code if
that told the rest of us anyting"....

Slamming Ascend only causes noise on this group and frankly, I like the
group because it doesn't have a lot of noise, just facts and friendly
help!!!  I hope it remains that way!!

Jim Williams


On Tue, 12 May 1998, Brett Hawn wrote:

> Ok,
> 
>  I'll be the first to admit I went a bit too far, I personally have not
> tested the v.90 code (with good reason, which I think is all too
> apparenent). Some of you folks have been around long enough to know, I used
> to be a HUGE ascend supporter, some of you are relatively new and don't know
> that.  Fact of the matter is, that within 2 years Ascend has pushed my
> opinion of them so low I don't believe it can be raised again. Consistently
> piss poor engineering of their boxes, consistently flawed code. 
> 
>   Here's a question for you, when was the last time you saw truly working
> firmware for an Ascend? You know.. one that had OSPF, RIP, Stacking, and all
> the other toys working... at the _SAME_ time. Oh.. one release may work w/
> Stacking, and another might even working with OSPF, but at the same time?
> Lordy be.. that'd be *&^%$#@ing miracle if there ever was one.
> 
> 
>   Want me to believe you Kevin? (and therefore by extension Ascend) Its
> simple.. start producing results. How many times has it been pointed out to
> you people that you need to _STOP_ putting in all the nifty little bells and
> whistles and make the _CORE_ product work first. Last time I checked OSPF
> was still unstable, lots of folks seem to have problems with stacking, etc.
> If you can't get this to work I'm damn sure not going to believe a word you
> say when you start shooting off statistics on how the v.90 code works.
> 
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