1) I can assure you that the "alpha/beta" testers if there are such a thing don't exist here unless you include everyone. 2) I am running the same code as you can. If there is magic dust - I don't have it. 3) If you want to help, fly to CA and visit Ascend. I did, I paid for it, they didn't. I did it to help me. If you benefit, great. 4) I'm a "lower minion" than you. I just decided to do something, rather than just bitch. Best regards, David Van Allen - FASTNET(tm) / You Tools Corporation dave@fast.net (888)321-FAST(3278) <A HREF="http://www.fast.net">http://www.fast.net</A> FASTNET - Business and Personal Internet Solutions >-----Original Message----- >From: ascend@digistar.com [SMTP:ascend@digistar.com] >Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 1997 1:42 PM >Cc: 'ascend-users@bungi.com' >Subject: (ASCEND) stuffy code releases > >On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Dave Van Allen wrote: > >> Hopefully, with the eventual release of p24, along with some of the OSPF >> work we did out there, a very near release of the Max code will offer >> stability and functionality while still being a long way ahead of the >> competition. > >This is bullshit. If Ascend wants to release code for people to use, let >EVERYBODY have a crack at it, not hand-picked people to sit and tantalize >the lower minions. To sit here and read about one or two people talking >about their experiences and how "the rest of you can wait until we've >finished toying with you" is petty. > >Release the damned code, or keep your alpha/beta testers QUIET about it. > > >Regards, >Jason. > >-- > ____ . . __ > / __ \__ ___ __ ___ / /____ _____ jsb@digistar.com Jason S. >Buchanan > / /_/ / / // / /(_-</ __/ _ `/ __/ Springfield, MO Digistar >MicroSystems >/_____/_/\_, /_/\___/\__/\_,_/_/ KA0MNX ><A HREF="http://www.digistar.com/~jsb/">http://www.digistar.com/~jsb/</A> > /___/ IRC-Op >irc@Springfield.MO.US.undernet.org > UNIX/NT Systems and Network >Administrator > voice: 417-865-2480 fax: >417-865-1243 > > one net to rule them all, one net to find them, > one net to bring them all, using Unix to bind them. > > > <A HREF="http://www.eelsauce.com">http://www.eelsauce.com</A> > >++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ >To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com >To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <STRONG>Follow-Ups</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg08601.html">RE: (ASCEND) stuffy code releases</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Jason Nealis <nealis@babylon.erols.com></LI> </UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg08588.html">RE: (ASCEND) stuffy code releases</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: ascend@digistar.com</LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08585.html">Re: (ASCEND) 5.0ap24</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08610.html">(ASCEND) Re: Known Bug Tracking</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg07697.html">(ASCEND) What the big ones do</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="mail12.html#08584"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="threads.html#08584"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>