I think Florian meant that long TCP sessions are dropped even though the ISDN link has remained up. For instance, if you have a telnet session open but has no activity for a while, you will find your telnet window stops working. The ISDN link itself would have other activities going on so idle detection is definitely not kicking in. I have seen this as well w/ my Pipeline 75 using various 5.0Ai betas. I'm currently running Ai23 and the bug is still there. -- Patrick Lee <pat@patlee.org> ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <HR> <STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg08510.html">Re: (ASCEND) NAT Bugs on P50/5.0Ai23</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Jim Howard <jhoward@lyceum.com></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08532.html">RE: (ASCEND) Be careful with 5.0Ap23!</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08531.html">Re: (ASCEND) max4000/56k/5.0Ap16 and 14400 do not connect</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08510.html">Re: (ASCEND) NAT Bugs on P50/5.0Ai23</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08440.html">(ASCEND) p23</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="mail15.html#08533"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd155.html#08533"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>