Best regards, David Van Allen - FASTNET(tm) / You Tools Corporation dave@fast.net (888)321-FAST(3278) <A HREF="http://www.fast.net">http://www.fast.net</A> FASTNET - Business and Personal Internet Solutions >-----Original Message----- >From: Jason Nealis [SMTP:nealis@babylon.erols.com] >Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 1997 5:18 PM >To: Dave Van Allen >Cc: 'ascend-users@bungi.com' >Subject: Re: (ASCEND) reality check! > > > >On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Dave Van Allen wrote: > >> After some discussion with Ascend, I am convinced that there was really >> nothing sinister around the removal of p23. Although highly unusual >> (and maybe to their credit) Ascend felt that the release has serious >> implications in billing details if used without knowledge of the Radius >> fault. > > Agreed, one thing does come to mind though that may counter that statment >though, I can't remember the exact release, But somwhere in the early >5.0 or late 4.6 patch stream they left out Radius Accounting all-together. >Why didn't they pull that? > > I guess Ascend is making a firmer commitment to quality now in patch >releases. > >> >> The engineering release that preceded p23 is, as Jason stated the best >> release so far, with many fixes and improvements. To have it work with >> radius properly is, I'm sure, a high profile goal of Ascend right now. > > Correct, The Rockwell firmware is the best yet to be seen. > > >> Less we forget and to add some balance - Ascend, just like all of us are >> caught in a no-win situation with Flex, they have to rely on Rockwell >> for the brunt of the core code. We as a group have chosen to delve into >> Flex early, at the request of customers who have had this crap shoved >> down their throats from every marketing faction out there. We have to >> support this whole mess as beta testers (some would argue alpha) and >> nobody is winning right now except all of the other manufactures (Cisco, >> Livingston, Bay, et al) who have not taken a lead to bring a product to >> market and are just sitting back watching the 'collective us' and >> pioneers like Ascend work out all of the bugs for them. >> >> I was out in CA at Ascend for a few days along with Jason and some of >> the other fine (non tie wearing folk) from Erols and one thing was clear >> - Ascend is no happier with this than we are and the "people" their are >> feverishly working on the problems. > >Liver still hurts. > > >> Hopefully, with the eventual release of p24, along with some of the OSPF >> work we did out there, a very near release of the Max code will offer >> stability and functionality while still being a long way ahead of the >> competition. And that's why we have all bought Ascend in the first >> place. IMHO, I do not see us being disappointed for much longer. > > >Hopefully is the key word here, I've been hoping for approx 10 months now. >In the past quality was job X.apX , Always we had to look to the >next patch release for quality, And with that patch release we had to wait >for the next. I hope Ascend has gotten the wake up call and they >understand that for us and them to move forward in the world we need >stability. > > >Jason Nealis >Director Internet Operations >Network Access >Erols Internet > > >> Just my $.02 >> >> Best regards, >> >> David Van Allen - FASTNET(tm) / You Tools Corporation >> dave@fast.net (888)321-FAST(3278) <A HREF="http://www.fast.net">http://www.fast.net</A> >> FASTNET - Business and Personal Internet Solutions >> >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Ralf Niederhuefner [SMTP:rn@prolink.de] >> >Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 1997 11:47 AM >> >To: ascend-users@bungi.com >> >Subject: AW: (ASCEND) Ascend Patch 5.0ap23? >> > >> >> > > possible that the software could be harmful to operations. Folks who >>do >> >> > > billing based on radius accounting could possibly be affected. >> > >> >> > How? I don't see how they are affected, There is still and Start and >>Stop >> >> > recorded for each users, (And that is what ISP's bill on) This only >> >> > problem that I can see is that you can not track down abusive users. >> > >> >> Obviously there is a more SERIOUS problem with ap23 than they want >> >> us to believe. >> > >> >For sure. I bet the CIA is behind that ... >> >BTW, did the mercedes of Lady Di run on ap23 ??!?!?? >> > >> >Come on. >> >- Ralf >> > >> >++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ >> >To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com >> >To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> >> ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ >> To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com >> To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> >> > > ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08514.html">Re: (ASCEND) Ascend Patch 5.0ap23?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08512.html">Re: (ASCEND) MAX 4000 + 56K modem cards = fire</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08565.html">(ASCEND) stuffy code releases</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08508.html">(ASCEND) Lucent links to modem vendors' upgrade sites</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="mail15.html#08515"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd158.html#08515"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>