The engineering release that preceded p23 is, as Jason stated the best release so far, with many fixes and improvements. To have it work with radius properly is, I'm sure, a high profile goal of Ascend right now. Less we forget and to add some balance - Ascend, just like all of us are caught in a no-win situation with Flex, they have to rely on Rockwell for the brunt of the core code. We as a group have chosen to delve into Flex early, at the request of customers who have had this crap shoved down their throats from every marketing faction out there. We have to support this whole mess as beta testers (some would argue alpha) and nobody is winning right now except all of the other manufactures (Cisco, Livingston, Bay, et al) who have not taken a lead to bring a product to market and are just sitting back watching the 'collective us' and pioneers like Ascend work out all of the bugs for them. I was out in CA at Ascend for a few days along with Jason and some of the other fine (non tie wearing folk) from Erols and one thing was clear - Ascend is no happier with this than we are and the "people" their are feverishly working on the problems. Hopefully, with the eventual release of p24, along with some of the OSPF work we did out there, a very near release of the Max code will offer stability and functionality while still being a long way ahead of the competition. And that's why we have all bought Ascend in the first place. IMHO, I do not see us being disappointed for much longer. Just my $.02 Best regards, David Van Allen - FASTNET(tm) / You Tools Corporation dave@fast.net (888)321-FAST(3278) <A HREF="http://www.fast.net">http://www.fast.net</A> FASTNET - Business and Personal Internet Solutions >-----Original Message----- >From: Ralf Niederhuefner [SMTP:rn@prolink.de] >Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 1997 11:47 AM >To: ascend-users@bungi.com >Subject: AW: (ASCEND) Ascend Patch 5.0ap23? > >> > > possible that the software could be harmful to operations. Folks who do >> > > billing based on radius accounting could possibly be affected. > >> > How? I don't see how they are affected, There is still and Start and Stop >> > recorded for each users, (And that is what ISP's bill on) This only >> > problem that I can see is that you can not track down abusive users. > >> Obviously there is a more SERIOUS problem with ap23 than they want >> us to believe. > >For sure. I bet the CIA is behind that ... >BTW, did the mercedes of Lady Di run on ap23 ??!?!?? > >Come on. >- Ralf > >++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ >To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com >To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <STRONG>Follow-Ups</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg08565.html">(ASCEND) stuffy code releases</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: ascend@digistar.com</LI> </UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg08516.html">Re: (ASCEND) reality check!</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Jason Nealis <nealis@babylon.erols.com></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08504.html">Re: (ASCEND) MAX 4000 + 56K modem cards = fire</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08502.html">(ASCEND) Re: 5.0ap23</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08502.html">(ASCEND) Re: 5.0ap23</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08516.html">Re: (ASCEND) reality check!</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="mail16.html#08503"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd158.html#08503"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>