As do we. And terminal servers on the console port in remote POPs. But if they crash, continue to accept calls (or at least answer them), and don't come back alive again, and their console port says "{{{ { {{{ {{{" and that's about it, there's not much you can do except get the line busied out and send someone to power cycle them. Sigh. May be time for remote power cycling equipment. I hope when Ascend designed the TNT they had an independent watchdog timer to take care of probems like this (cf Cisco). Alex Bligh Xara Networks ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <STRONG>Follow-Ups</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg08347.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: Re: OSPF question</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Marty Nix <mnix@ispalliance.net></LI> </UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg08344.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: Re: OSPF question</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Peter Lalor <plalor@infoasis.com></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg08320.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: Re: OSPF question</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Rob Wynne <rob@24hoursupport.com></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08333.html">Re: (ASCEND) Zoom 1.002A code</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08330.html">Re: (ASCEND) FAQ?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08320.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: Re: OSPF question</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08344.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: Re: OSPF question</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="mail23.html#08332"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd148.html#08332"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>