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RE: (ASCEND) reality check!

Your liver *should* hurt! :-)

Best regards,

David Van Allen - FASTNET(tm) / You Tools Corporation
dave@fast.net (888)321-FAST(3278) http://www.fast.net
FASTNET - Business and Personal Internet Solutions



>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Jason Nealis [SMTP:nealis@babylon.erols.com]
>Sent:	Tuesday, September 09, 1997 5:18 PM
>To:	Dave Van Allen
>Cc:	'ascend-users@bungi.com'
>Subject:	Re: (ASCEND) reality check!
>
>
>
>On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Dave Van Allen wrote:
>
>> After some discussion with Ascend, I am convinced that there was really
>> nothing sinister around the removal of p23.  Although highly unusual
>> (and maybe to their credit) Ascend felt that the release has serious
>> implications in billing details if used without knowledge of the Radius
>> fault.
>
> Agreed, one thing does come to mind though that may counter that statment
>though, I can't remember the exact release, But somwhere in the early
>5.0 or late 4.6 patch stream they left out Radius Accounting all-together.
>Why didn't they pull that?
>
> I guess Ascend is making a firmer commitment to quality now in patch
>releases. 
>
>> 
>> The engineering release that preceded p23 is, as Jason stated the best
>> release so far, with many fixes and improvements. To have it work with
>> radius properly is, I'm sure,  a high profile goal of Ascend right now.
> 
> Correct, The Rockwell firmware is the best yet to be seen.
>
>
>> Less we forget and to add some balance - Ascend, just like all of us are
>> caught in a no-win situation with Flex, they have to rely on Rockwell
>> for the brunt of the core code.  We as a group have chosen to delve into
>> Flex early, at the request of customers who have had this crap shoved
>> down their throats from every marketing faction out there.  We have to
>> support this whole mess as beta testers (some would argue alpha) and
>> nobody is winning right now except all of the other manufactures (Cisco,
>> Livingston, Bay, et al) who have not taken a lead to bring a product to
>> market and are just sitting back watching the 'collective us' and
>> pioneers like Ascend work out all of the bugs for them.
>> 
>> I was out in CA at Ascend for a few days along with Jason and some of
>> the other fine (non tie wearing folk) from Erols and one thing was clear
>> - Ascend is no happier with this than we are and the "people" their are
>> feverishly working on the problems.
>
>Liver still hurts.
>
> 
>> Hopefully, with the eventual release of p24, along with some of the OSPF
>> work we did out there, a very near release of the Max code will offer
>> stability and functionality while still being a long way ahead of the
>> competition.  And that's why we have all bought Ascend in the first
>> place.  IMHO, I do not see us being disappointed for much longer.
>
>
>Hopefully is the key word here, I've been hoping for approx 10 months now.
>In the past quality was job X.apX , Always we had to look to the
>next patch release for quality, And with that patch release we had to wait
>for the next. I hope Ascend has gotten the wake up call and they
>understand that for us and them to move forward in the world we need
>stability. 
>
>
>Jason Nealis
>Director Internet Operations
>Network Access
>Erols Internet
>
>
>> Just my $.02
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> David Van Allen - FASTNET(tm) / You Tools Corporation
>> dave@fast.net (888)321-FAST(3278) http://www.fast.net
>> FASTNET - Business and Personal Internet Solutions
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From:	Ralf Niederhuefner [SMTP:rn@prolink.de]
>> >Sent:	Tuesday, September 09, 1997 11:47 AM
>> >To:	ascend-users@bungi.com
>> >Subject:	AW: (ASCEND) Ascend Patch 5.0ap23?
>> >
>> >> > > possible that the software could be harmful to operations. Folks who
>>do
>> >> > > billing based on radius accounting could possibly be affected.
>> >
>> >> > How? I don't see how they are affected, There is still and Start and
>>Stop
>> >> > recorded for each users, (And that is what ISP's bill on) This only
>> >> > problem that I can see is that you can not track down abusive users. 
>> >
>> >> Obviously there is a more SERIOUS problem with ap23 than they want
>> >> us to believe.
>> >
>> >For sure. I bet the CIA is behind that ...
>> >BTW, did the mercedes of Lady Di run on ap23 ??!?!??
>> >
>> >Come on.
>> >- Ralf
>> >
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