Actually, I have been "living under a rock." More accurately, piles of them, mostly all alone. So how would I know Linux has become "mainstream??" How many Linux programmers would you guess there are in Mora, MN?? After I bust a gut using winter firewood, I bust a gut building concrete/rock/and steel summer foundations. Recently, I started learning pthreads, and I blame that all on you, smarty pants. Until my gut heals and I can work outside and bust it again. Iznogoud wrote: >> I ran across the Wikileaks link describing modern "wiretapping" methods. >> >> https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/index.html >> >> Maybe I read it all wrong, and I only read this page, but it looks like >> Linux is the tool used to hack into our digital communications grid. >> > Seen this. It is no surprise, as there is much more documentation (but also > versatility) that comes with Linux. I'd the same if I were them. And with > Wine they can probably mix-and-match for getting to penetrate other OSs. > > One comment on your title. I think the government is doing less "abuse" in the > sense that you put it compared to what Wall Street does with Linux. > > >> All it seems to imply to dumb old me is this once obscure geek toy OS >> has come a long way to respectable status. >> > I should say something that starts with "unless you've been living under a rock > you'd want know that" and ends with Linux has been mainstream for years. It > runs our global infrastructure, and there was a youtube video of a TEDx talk > on that (given by Linus' boss in Portland some years ago). > > >> Given the accuse first ask questions later nature of our modern >> political system, we Linux fans and the TCLUG list might already be >> under suspicion. Franz Kafka and James Bond couldn't match the current >> craziness. >> > Two things: > > (a) The "accuse first" is mostly a self-serving _economic_model_ in my humble > opinion, far from an efficient way of doing things (in a sense that an > economist would put it). It creates jobs to have a mess of things, and if > Y2K was not a prime example of this, the book "Perpetual War for Perpetual > Peace" puts it well for a different aspect of our world. The point is made > here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_war > > (b) Wasn't it said that NSA has a 3-day live buffer of the internet traffic? > Storing text, like emails, is really cheap in comparison. This crap we talk > about here will live forevah! > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >