I'm only going to comment only on the < GnuRoot > part of this message. Actually < GnuRoot Debian >, which appears to be Debian 8 (jessie), has a March 2017 update date, therefore, I think that is the one to use! I just use < GnuRoot Debian > through the terminal rather than bring up X and an xterm (I think X is via X11-server-that-speaks-VNC) since the screen is a smartphone screen after all, and I have 1920x1080 on the screen so every button is way too small!! I used it on these Samsung Galaxy S-series: {S2, S5, S7}. [Recently my S5's video fried so I ebay-bought an S7.] First off, the important thing is, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ROOT YOUR PHONE! It seems pretty capable, although not everything will work. For one thing, I think you have to run as user root. Your home directory (/home) is on your VFAT internal flash drive (path is < /sdcard/ > although it is *NOT* the external-SD-card but *IS* the internal storage). Path /, on the other hand, is, I believe, some kind of ext#, although, annoyingly < df / > says rootfs. At any rate, your /sdcard/ doesn't let you execute--has noexec, no doubt, directories you create under / will let you execute stuff. Further, your directories under / will have the nine permission bits handled correctly, etc. I have used < gcc, make, perl, emacs, shell scripts (/bin/sh), bash, traditional-nc (nc is netcat), ssh (client), scp (client), sftp (client). IIRC, I had trouble trying to install < sshd (i.e., the ssh server) >. I didn't try because I didn't care to have one: *apache* server. In my .bashrc, I have the equivalent of: TZ=:America/Chicago HOME=/com export TZ HOME and I did < mkdir /com >. I also added < $HOME/bin (i.e., /com/bin) > to my PATH. So, if I want to use internal storage (VFAT), it is at < /home >, and if you want to use < what I think is EXT# but is labelled as rootfs >, I can use ~ (which is /com). You can use whatever name you want other than the "com" part of < /com >. That's just what I decided to use. [Etiology of com (what I think is a better name than "smartphone") is: com = com com = (com)puter (com)unicator.] Now, you can easily get to, on your Android file-management-program on the outside of GnuRoot, you use path < /sdcard/GNURoot/home (capitalization may be incorrect) to get to the GnuRoot-path of < /home >. The least annoying keyboard that I've found (it is still annoying in that sometimes arrow keys don't work in emacs) is: NextApp So, to get < emacs > to your Android "smartphone", do this in GNURoot Debian: apt-get install emacs ==== Sorry for the sililoquoy. It's just GNURoot works so well that I am excited about a useful Linux in my pocket. ==== ~ Steve ~ On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 02:24:01AM -0500, Mike Miller wrote: > Re: GNUroot -- I think we're supposed to use this one now: > > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=champion.gnuroot&hl=en > > Mike > > On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 2:20 AM, Mike Miller <mbmiller+l at gmail.com> wrote: > > Have you tried GNUroot on your Android devices? It seems like a good > > plan for me. I was looking for a way to run GNU R on my phone or on > > the Fire HD 8 when I found this. I guess it lets you run a lot of > > cool stuff. Sometime soon I'll get it working and I'll let you know > > what I think of it. > > > > Mike > > > > On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 2:18 AM, Mike Miller <mbmiller+l at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yeah, I'm the product, but I'm the product even when I'm the customer! > >> It's inescapable in the era of big data. We have to fight > >> exploitation legislatively. Not being the product means not > >> participating fully in modern society and spending a lot of time > >> checking everything. It's really not possible to avoid it. > >> > >> Mike > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Clug <tclug at freakzilla.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017, Iznogoud wrote: > >>> > >>>> Maybe the price is so low because "you" are the product. > >>> > >>> > >>> It's worth noting that Amazon sells a "No Special Offers" version of all > >>> their Kindle devices which do *not* show ads. Naturally, they cost more. > >>> They also let you disable the ads post-purchase (though they do charge for > >>> it, of course). > >>> > >>> I have heard people say the ads are not intrusive, too (they're on > >>> screensaves/splash screens, not while you're actively using the device). I > >>> personally still find this... less than acceptable, but if people are OK > >>> with it on their device, I'm not going to judge. Much. > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org > >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list