On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Iznogoud <iznogoud at nobelware.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately I will not offer very good technical advise on this, but
> read on.
>
> >
> > The fun part is that horde_webmail needs to have php5.6 for almost all of
> > its packages.
> >
>
> I just looked here to make sure I get the picture:
> https://www.horde.org/apps/webmail/docs/INSTALL
> Under prerequisites it says "PHP 5.3.0 or above" and frankly I cannot see
> how
> a newer version of PHP would be the source of any serious problems. I could
> certainly be wrong, but I am suggesting to dismiss that as a potential
> problem.
>

I would agree with you except that I have been working on trying to install
- - -
no matter what I am trrying - - - the end result is - - - 'not installed'
and the
error message says uses php 5.3 to 6.0 (non inclusive) but 7.0.17 is
installed (IIRC)
so its not like I have a choice.

>
> > Is there any way to install BOTH php 5.6 and php7.0 without them
> > conflicting?
> >
>
> I'd say throu all the installation in a VM that has an older OS installed,
> say
> an OS that says has PHP 5.8 packaged in it. Make sure it works out of that
> VM
> before you trying doing things that can lead to more problems that you
> cannot
> quickly solve.
>
>
> Given that this is probably in support of your business, I'll give you this
> piece of "business development" advise: get your mail service working by
> having a company like Google handle it for free via Gmail first. You can
> sort
> out your own mailserver and web-mail items later. In fact, you can have
> your
> own mail-server and allow gmail to be the front-end service (via IMAP),
> which
> is what users see when they are using email. Horde can be something that
> you
> can trouble-shoot later. The idea is that you will, very quickly, get going
> so that you can focus on the business side first and leave technical
> details
> for the time that details can be sorted out. An added benefit is that you
> do
> not have to worry about maintaining the reputation of a mail-server if you
> allow Gmail to handle it all. You will find that you will have to work a
> bit
> harder to keep your server off blacklists. I do know that we all prefer to
> keep the "evil empire" off our e-mailboxes...
>

Trying that - - - it is quite a good idea. I am getting more and more
loathe to
broadcast everything that I am working on to ms google so that she can (and
she will) demand more from her advertisers! My business communications
are not for others to make money off of IMO.

So I have a sticky problem - - - checked Debian 9 does NOT use php5.6 that
is held to Debian 8 so there will be even greater issues.

I'm starting to think that complicated software setups just aren't worth
pursuing - - - I need tools not black holes for my time!

Thanks for the suggestions!!

Dee
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