I don't analyze other people. I'll share a perspective, however. It 
might offend you, might not.

Living out here I've met some native cultures. An old guy, Michael Cho 
became a friend. He loved our raspberries. I gave him some stone 
artifacts. He gave me some walleye. He later introduced me to Tom 
Redbear, an artist. I gave Tom some stone table tops from ancient 
chemistry benches salvaged from the U of M. Tom gave (sold) me an 
incredible carved bear still in our living room. I don't know why my 
wife tied a ribbon bow around its neck. But if you're married with 
children you know not to ask questions.

Who knows what creative people of good will can do with the right 
materials and tools?? Who wants to stop creativity and sharing?? Linux 
is just a great opportunity for creative computing and community 
sharing. It would simply be fun to see what a new generation can make 
happen with the tools and raw material you already seem to provide. This 
isn't a business deal. It's a caring parent deal. And that comes through 
fine.

Sandwhich Eyes wrote:
> i have my opening statement done. it may be a bit overconfident/smug 
> or not. i have to be careful with my head injuries to not just say the 
> first thing that comes to into my head. i would like to put  up a 
> website using something like hostinger to document the process to 
> assist others who may have the same opportunity that i have been 
> provided with.
>
>    Let me start by saying that in a way, I am an educator. I started a 
> nonprofit 501c3 to give native cultures in the western hemisphere 
> access to education, technology, and commerce. We started a diabetes 
> awareness program for which we had booths set up at places such as The 
> Science Museum of Minnesota. There is also a syndicated radio show 
> named Indigenous in Music that was formed from this project that was 
> set up and designed by me. (Currently being made weekly using the same 
> setup I made, but done by a 15 year old Native American boy with 
> remarkable quality.)
>
> At the chamber of commerce, IICOC (Indigenous Internet Chamber of 
> Commerce), I received donated computers, mostly used, and would DBAN 
> the hard drives to completely remove the previous contents and install 
> a variety of different operating systems on them such as Microsoft 
> Windows, Mac, FreeBSD, but mostly Linux. Most of our volunteers were 
> unfamiliar with computers.
>
> Eventually the people who had been accessing the Windows machines 
> would go onto a Linux machine. I would frequently hear, where is this 
> specific program? When my learning Linux volunteers would switch to 
> Windows they would ask, where is this specific option; as most of them 
> had moved from computer to computer on the different distributions I 
> had choose to install of Linux as our main operating systems they had 
> used different programs already to do the same thing. For example Open 
> Office and ABI Word, Star Office, Libre Office, etc. all do the same 
> thing INCLUDING that which Microsoft Word/Office have to offer.
>
> It seems as though closed source systems like Apple and Windows 
> provide, as an example, frequently will not offer the options that 
> Open Source software offers. Part of the reason for this is financial. 
> Microsoft Corporation pays many people in order to bring you Microsoft 
> Windows and its related products and adhere to budgets put in place; 
> limiting the options that many people may want/need. If the source 
> code is open source it provides a means for these people to add the 
> options. Then if the choose to offer them to the community they can 
> merge it upstream in the next software release; which happens many 
> times faster than Microsoft offers (sometimes daily instead of every 
> few years as in Microsoft Office), while providing the flexibility to 
> use the same software on almost every platform imaginable including 
> Microsoft Windows. Bill Gates would have a hard time with all of his 
> money we gave him to do the same thing that an open source community 
> can do in a very short amount of time. If this doesn’t make sense to 
> you or you feel I am wrong, I encourage you to spend some time and 
> look around. You need to understand that most of what you see is 
> running Linux. Your smart TV’s, your cable box, your android phone, 
> wireless access points, printers, modern ATM machines, most web 
> services, drones, mail sorting machines, most electronic medical 
> equipment, 






 Keep looking around and investigate the influence 
> or complete use of open source in it. It is everywhere, and as 
> educators you really need to understand that in real life people will 
> be using Linux and other open source software in their daily lives; 
> which translates to jobs.
>
> From organizational structure, to the people who freely give, 
> providing us with the many different communities, open source is what 
> made most everything we see today. Open source is a very welcoming 
> educational, and transparent way for everyone who wants to become 
> involved in every single aspect of designing, building, and/or using 
> software and hardware that is available; or that they have dreamed up, 
> providing us with innovation and change in ways that a small group of 
> executives with access to code and schematics may never have.
>
> Open source has been around since the very beginning of computing 
> whether it was through collaboration of different entities or under 
> the somewhat specific name of open source, and will continue to 
> provide people with the opportunity to use this information to learn 
> about how the world works around them; and if you so desire to build a 
> closed source business with it, as the licensing provides people with 
> this and many many opportunities to use it however they can imagine. 
> Microsoft and Apple both provide the open source community with 
> philanthropy and code; on occasion. Many commercial enterprises offer 
> support including financial to the open source communities on an 
> ongoing basis; frequently because their business was built using open 
> source hardware and software. There are companies who offer support to 
> the end users of said communities as well as a very large number of 
> people available at any time to answer questions freely and with 
> passion. There is a symbiotic relationship between the 2 (open and 
> closed source) and to ignore the open source community and Linux is an 
> act of ignorance at this point in my speech. To avoid research and use 
> of these technologies in an education environment, other than 
> universities who already incorporate and innovate these technologies, 
> would be a choice I hope no one listening to this or reading this 
> after my speech will make.
>
> It should be noted that our government is the primary funder and 
> founder of these open source projects and brought us modern day 
> computing as we know it. This is not a business exclusive 
> relationship, but one that crosses international, cultural, and civil 
> borders and is comprised of educational, business, government, and 
> civilian peoples from every walk of life with varying interests and 
> goals united together.
>
>
> none of this needs to be in here, it is only my first draft. i can 
> scrap it and start over as i often do.
>
> i am open to all criticisms as this is important to the other kids in 
> the school out here (potentially other schools); my kids will have 
> plenty of skills regardless of any end results.
>
> */This is so fun!/*
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 10:59 PM, Iznogoud <iznogoud at nobelware.com 
> <mailto:iznogoud at nobelware.com>> wrote:
>
>     Regarding augmented reality, I have been working on it for a while
>     now. There
>     is a LOT to it, not just hardware, btu good hardware is key.
>
>     I used the Microsoft product (name escapes me) and will be working
>     with the
>     Oculus Rift DK2 on Saturday. My searches for Linux software and
>     drivers that
>     are necessary in order to use the ready-made API show that there
>     is little
>     out there at the moment. If anyone has any info that I should be
>     looking at,
>     please share.
>
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